Baldur's Gate 3

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Elfie Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:08pm
No Good-aligned female companion?
So,

Shadowheart is obviously LE (cleric of Shar)
Minthara is either NE or CE
Lae'Zel is either LE or LN
Karlach is a super-canonical CN character

But is there any good-alighned female companions?

Where are all the "Good" girls at?
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CatraGirl Aug 19, 2023 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Elfie:
But I still think you're misinterpreting Shadowheart. She IS the faithful of Shar. She does not need to be "corrupted" because her faith stems not from corruption but from gratitude.

Her faith stems from extreme gaslighting. I've only completed act 2, but it's clear that her memory wasn't wiped willingly, at least not the part about her parents.
Her entire reason for following Shar is based on a lie she was made to believe since she was a child.

Originally posted by Elfie:
She can be "guided" into light or come to it by herself, but she starts as Evil that clear as much. You can't be Neutral Cleric of Shar.

But even before act 2 there's clearly 2 sides to her. She is actually good for the most part, she supports you when you're nice and help innocents (as long as it doesn't interfere with your main goal too much), and she hates siding with Minthara. The only parts where she's "evil" is when it comes to anything related to Shar and her mission, and if you talk to her about it, it's very clear she's just repeating what's been fed to her through intensive brainwashing. She just spouts propaganda lines if you talk about Shar and Selune because she was programmed to do so by the cult. Again, she's very clearly a good person who's been brainwashed by an evil cult, even before you get to her big moment in act 2, that was always very clear to me from the way she acts and talks.
CatraGirl Aug 19, 2023 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
jaheira is true neutral.
lae'zel is lawful neutral.
astarion is chaotic neutral
wyll is chaotic good
shadowheart is lawful neutral
gale is neutral good
karlagh is chaotic good.
halsin is true neutral
minsc is chaotic good
minthara is lawful evil

lmao what? Most of these are complete nonsense.
Lae'Zel is lawful evil (at least until you get her to question her Queen), Astarion is chaotic evil or neutral evil, Jaheira is good. For Shadowheart see my comment above. Gale not sure tbh, seems mostly neutral considering his backstory.
Elfie Aug 19, 2023 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
jaheira is true neutral.
lae'zel is lawful neutral.
astarion is chaotic neutral
wyll is chaotic good
shadowheart is lawful neutral
gale is neutral good
karlagh is chaotic good.
halsin is true neutral
minsc is chaotic good
minthara is lawful evil

Gale is some kind of neutral as he do not oppose murder mayhem cheating etc. He just freedom-loving and pro-mage/magic creature, so he likes when you free creatures of magic. Thats his class feature not alignment feature. Definitely not evil or good. Also not a girl :)

Shadowheart is either LG or LE - the fact that she torn between these identities doesn't make her Neutral.

Jaheira is anything but true netural. If you judge her only by her actions, she is Chaotic Evil. However with how harpers are being treated by most people in Faerun, somehow she is Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Good/Neutral Good.
Just compare her to Halsin (True Neutral). Have they ANYTHING in common? No.

Others I pretty much +- agree with you.
Last edited by Elfie; Aug 19, 2023 @ 5:23pm
THIEF Aug 19, 2023 @ 5:25pm 
Wait until you meet Hope. You only get a short time with her, but def my favorite female hero!
$CRWD Aug 19, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by Elfie:
She IS the faithful of Shar.

There are key moments in her personal story that determine this. It isn't set in stone. If she makes the right choices in order to become a Dark Justicar, she's effectively E. If she rejects Shar and embraces Selune, she's G. The former is corruption for /very/ obvious reasons. If you haven't reached those points, I won't spoil them.
Last edited by $CRWD; Aug 20, 2023 @ 7:03pm
rpgforme Aug 19, 2023 @ 6:49pm 
This is a problem that you can see everywhere in the game. It's full of edge-lord women, overbearing and aggressive. A feminist's wet dream.
TheDraconicBard Aug 19, 2023 @ 6:51pm 
Karlach is definitely Chaotic Good. She disapproves of pretty much anything rude you do
Originally posted by rpgforme:
This is a problem that you can see everywhere in the game. It's full of edge-lord women, overbearing and aggressive. A feminist's wet dream.

Incorrect. If you played the game instead of troll the forums, you'd realize your opinion is false and misinformed.

Please, have some respect and just jump into the pool, stop whining about how cold the pool is and jump in. The water's fine. Did that metaphor make sense to you?
Nikako Aug 19, 2023 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Elfie:
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
jaheira is true neutral.
lae'zel is lawful neutral.
astarion is chaotic neutral
wyll is chaotic good
shadowheart is lawful neutral
gale is neutral good
karlagh is chaotic good.
halsin is true neutral
minsc is chaotic good
minthara is lawful evil

Gale is some kind of neutral as he do not oppose murder mayhem cheating etc. He just freedom-loving and pro-mage/magic creature, so he likes when you free creatures of magic. Thats his class feature not alignment feature. Definitely not evil or good. Also not a girl :)

Shadowheart is either LG or LE - the fact that she torn between these identities doesn't make her Neutral.

Jaheira is anything but true netural. If you judge her only by her actions, she is Chaotic Evil. However with how harpers are being treated by most people in Faerun, somehow she is Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Good/Neutral Good.
Just compare her to Halsin (True Neutral). Have they ANYTHING in common? No.

Others I pretty much +- agree with you.


Gales Chaotic Good, he's opposed to the cosmic order (his ambition) but basically wants to do good things with the power he would accumulate.

Hot take could argue that Karlach is lawful good. Folks are getting caught up on her personality of liking to fight, and beserking, but this isn't what would make one actually chaotic on alignment. If she could admit that the Blood War was basically necessary she would be lawful good (ie hating the evil of devils but recognizing they fulfill a necessary function in the cosmic order). I admit that's my contrarian streak arguing for her as lawful good, but she's clearly good aligned.

Shadowheart - Play through the second and third acts. Her 'alignment' will eventually depend on how you play the game... but she starts out LE.

I haven't messed w/Halsin or Jaheira but suspect they are also lawful versions of whatever their alignment is (supporting the cosmic/natural hierarchy).

Vlaakith is chaotic evil (much for the same reason Gales chaotic good), so Lae is LE in service of CE when she is Vlaakith aligned.
Incantus Aug 19, 2023 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by rpgforme:
This is a problem that you can see everywhere in the game. It's full of edge-lord women, overbearing and aggressive. A feminist's wet dream.

Nah, it's full of actual people with wants, desires and personalities. Some of the best companions I've ever had in a game.

That said, they are indeed very influenced by your actions. And nearly all of the more "evil" companions can be turned downright decent by the end due to your actions.

However, only Shadowheart can be swayed towards a more evil disposition.

Gale, Wyll and Karlach will not abide and follow a truly evil MC, Asterion finds it amusing and Lae'zel doesn't care but will comment on a waste of effort if you are needlessly evil and brutal.
$CRWD Aug 19, 2023 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by Jill Sandwich:
Originally posted by Elfie:
But I still think you're misinterpreting Shadowheart. She IS the faithful of Shar. She does not need to be "corrupted" because her faith stems not from corruption but from gratitude.

Her faith stems from extreme gaslighting. I've only completed act 2, but it's clear that her memory wasn't wiped willingly, at least not the part about her parents.
Her entire reason for following Shar is based on a lie she was made to believe since she was a child.

Originally posted by Elfie:
She can be "guided" into light or come to it by herself, but she starts as Evil that clear as much. You can't be Neutral Cleric of Shar.

But even before act 2 there's clearly 2 sides to her. She is actually good for the most part, she supports you when you're nice and help innocents (as long as it doesn't interfere with your main goal too much), and she hates siding with Minthara. The only parts where she's "evil" is when it comes to anything related to Shar and her mission, and if you talk to her about it, it's very clear she's just repeating what's been fed to her through intensive brainwashing. She just spouts propaganda lines if you talk about Shar and Selune because she was programmed to do so by the cult. Again, she's very clearly a good person who's been brainwashed by an evil cult, even before you get to her big moment in act 2, that was always very clear to me from the way she acts and talks.


Ding ding ding. Induced dissociative identity disorder, signs of physical and psychological abuse, a mark that is the functional equivalent to a shock collar, and so on. The signs were all there, and it was difficult not to feel sympathetic.

Best written companion, imo, although the others are barely finished, so we'll see what more is in store.
alex010300 Aug 19, 2023 @ 11:03pm 
There is a good female companion you can get in Act 2
SoloQ Aug 19, 2023 @ 11:07pm 
If you want it spoiled. I'll do it. About Shadowheart.
She can willingly leave her faith. She does immediately turn to Selune too. She makes it out like she has no choice but to be faithful to something greater than herself or some jesus nonsense. Edit: I forgot how it had happened was what had happened....
Last edited by SoloQ; Aug 19, 2023 @ 11:08pm
Shozou Aug 19, 2023 @ 11:07pm 
Least incelous take.
Sigvuld Aug 19, 2023 @ 11:09pm 
Karlach literally will not do anything but try to murder you if you wipe out the grove before going to her, she is absolutely Chaotic Good
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