Do unarmed attacks count as Finesse`?

[mayrc]

Talking about Monk here. And if so does the duelist feat aplly`?

[mayrc]

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[Morgian]

No. Unarmed attacks are not finesse. However, the shortsword is a finesse and a monk weapon. Maybe that works? I bet it does not, but you can try it out.

[mayrc]

hmm so where is the point then in unarmed attacks as a Dex- monk?

[mayrc]

Then a dex monk is a broken class? I was wondering since A quaterstaff counts as finesse weapon for a monk

[Elizadeath]

if unarmed attacks were finesse, you wouldn't need to be a monk to use your dex for them. even then, you don't add the finesse feature to your unarmed attacks, you just gain a feature that does the same thing

[Morgian]

It does not count as a finesse weapon. Monks get their DEX to attack and damage whenever they wield a monk weapon or go unarmed - if it is higher than their STR. So yes, you get DEX for the quarterstaff, but it is still not a finesse weapon for any other purpose.

[mayrc]

Originally posted by Jinkaru:

Monk specific abilities that use unarmed attacks count as unarmed attacks lol No, staves are not finess weapons.

dont get me wrong but maybe you have no Idea of the topic? Since i found now that in the Charakter creation it clearly said Unarmed and ALL weapons trained in are Finesse weapons for a monk.

The question now remains if duelist feat then is active with Unarmed

[Tijger]

Monks use DEX or STR, so unarmed can be both afaik.

[mayrc]

Originally posted by Morgian:

It does not count as a finesse weapon. Monks get their DEX to attack and damage whenever they wield a monk weapon or go unarmed - if it is higher than their STR. So yes, you get DEX for the quarterstaff, but it is still not a finesse weapon for any other purpose.

ahh ok that can make sense. So duelist doesnt work with unarmed. But it would with a short sword?

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by mayrc:

Then a dex monk is a broken class? I was wondering since A quaterstaff counts as finesse weapon for a monk

Monk's pretty balanced.

All weapons w/ proficiency that are not heavy or two handed are monk weapons.

All finesse weapons: https://hardcoregamer.com/db/bg3/all-finesse-weapons-in-baldurs-gate-3/458551/

[Morgian]

That is the question. You can save, try it out and then see if it does. That one comes down to how it was implemented and can be found out only by trying it.

[mayrc]

Originally posted by Morgian:

That is the question. You can save, try it out and then see if it does. That one comes down to how it was implemented and can be found out only by trying it.

Thank you that helped and i guess it works as long as you use a natural dex-weapon.

[Morgian]

Let us know if it worked, I am interested in the answer myself.

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by mayrc:

Then a dex monk is a broken class? I was wondering since A quaterstaff counts as finesse weapon for a monk

Quarterstaff still isn't finesse, I know you think it is. Idk where finesse weapons is coming from, they don't matter.

This is just a bonus trade-off for monk weapons (unarmed counts). https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Martial+Arts+Dextrous+Attacks

[mayrc]

Originally posted by Morgian:

Let us know if it worked, I am interested in the answer myself.

The point here is that it would get the Armorclass to hideous levels with a Monk. Far over any Warrior.