Animal handling is useless to the classes that have it

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Rangers and druids are good at animal handling but don't get to ever use it if they speak with animals and are forced to use charisma which is not a stat useful for them. It doesnt really make any sense that they are so good at connecting with animals that when they suddenly become capable of talking to them they also become much worse at interacting with them... It is literally better if my ranger interacts with animals without having speak with animals on, and she's basically been asked to use animal handling ever. :l

[sam_502]

Its useful son, just roll a farmer, leave this adventuring life to scoundrels

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On that note: it took me a while to learn that those two things are different ... or in other words: I "spoke"to animals the first time after 100+ hours because I thought animal handling rolls are the way to go here (even took care to have that skill high)

[Cernunnos]

Honestly they should have made it so persuasion checks when talking to animals used animal handling instead tbh at least then it wouldn't be useless.

[Solomon Kane]

Sadly as it is, Animal Handling is a useless skill in the game, I maybe used it once or twice in the entire game really.

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Originally posted by Solomon Kane:

Sadly as it is, Animal Handling is a useless skill in the game, I maybe used it once or twice in the entire game really.

same, most of the time, my druid just spoke to them.

But you can also speak to them in animal form not just via the spell "talk to animals"

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Yeah I would just expect to still have at least 1 option using animal handling even when speaking with them. I get the theme decision they went for, it just doesn't work from a skill use / balance point to me.

[HighPriest]

Yeah, it's pretty useless unless you avoid Speak w/ Animals. It would be a lot better if you still had an Animal Handling option even if you had Speak w/ Animals active.

[Murderhobo]

Originally posted by Cernunnos:

Honestly they should have made it so persuasion checks when talking to animals used animal handling instead tbh at least then it wouldn't be useless.

I don't get why you can't use it in combat like in Newerwinter Nights. In that game it allowed you to convert an animal to your side during the fight and if it survived you got a friend following you forever.

[Hobocop]

Rangers might like it so they don't have to use one of their limited spells known on Speak with Animals.

But even then, Potions of Animal Speaking are plentiful enough for it to not be of much use, and the dialogues are too good to pass up in any case.

[Winter Light]

Originally posted by sam_502:

Its useful son, just roll a farmer, leave this adventuring life to scoundrels

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Originally posted by Murderhobo:

Originally posted by Cernunnos:

Honestly they should have made it so persuasion checks when talking to animals used animal handling instead tbh at least then it wouldn't be useless.

I don't get why you can't use it in combat like in Newerwinter Nights. In that game it allowed you to convert an animal to your side during the fight and if it survived you got a friend following you forever.

That sounds much more useful and honestly a bit closer to what you actually do with it in actual DnD ( To at least calm them down from fighting, heck I just basically did that in the campaign I played yesterday with dire wolves)

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Originally posted by Hobocop:

Rangers might like it so they don't have to use one of their limited spells known on Speak with Animals.

But even then, Potions of Animal Speaking are plentiful enough for it to not be of much use, and the dialogues are too good to pass up in any case.

For sure, I took the speak with animals spell until i hit level 5 then switched spells for something more useful and just using the potions I found.