Baldur's Gate 3

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Good Guy Companions (Spoilers)
So which of the companions can be considered Good Guys?

I think i can safely rule out Astarion and Lazael.

Shadowheart and Gale seems kinda on the verge, but idk.

Minthara seems to be a good guy, once she breaks free from the spell

Halsin is probably the goodest guy of them all.

Idk about Wyll or the tiefling yet.
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Cinemax Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:17am 
Wyll and Karlach are pure good guys.
Leslian Lexter Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by Cinemax:
Wyll and Karlach are pure good guys.
Which Patron does Wyll have?
Blackfrost Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:19am 
If we're talking about hypothetical alignment:

Gale, Halsin, Wyll, Karlach + the 2 NPCs you get in Act 3 are all good.

Shadowheart is neutral and can swing both ways depending on how you progress her story.

Minthara, Astarion and Lae'zel are evil.
asagi Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:19am 
Wyll and Karlach (the theifling) are both good.
Shadowheart is too. She usually likes you for good deeds.
Gale is goodish to neutral. He won't dislike you for good deeds so he is safe.
Orpheus Damocles Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:19am 
You can have Lae'zel with you. She is pragmatic and values strength, regardless of alignment as far as I can tell.

Shadowheart is also neutral as well. So long as your actions align with her goals, she don't give a crap.

Gale is all around good as is Wyll. The latter's MO is protecting those who cannot protect themselves and he comes to the defense of the tieflings at the grove.

You can have Astarion with you for a good run but he is self centered and looks out for himself usually. Given his backstory, I cannot blame him for it.

I have no comment on Minthara because I haven't touched that. Yet.

Karlach (the tiefling) wants to smash evil, no not the in the lewd way. Smash evil with her and she will smash you, yes in the lewd way.
Blackfrost Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:20am 
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
Originally posted by Cinemax:
Wyll and Karlach are pure good guys.
Which Patron does Wyll have?

A Cambion called Mizora. His quest will explain why he made a pact and the consequences of it.
Cinemax Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:21am 
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
Originally posted by Cinemax:
Wyll and Karlach are pure good guys.
Which Patron does Wyll have?
Well, having an evil patron who makes him do evil things does not make him evil.
Krypto Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:22am 
All of them have that potential, Larian really focused on trying to make characters with depth and even the ones who don't seem like good people initially open up over time. Some of them have spent their lives being indoctrinated, some of them made critical mistakes they're still reeling from. But, just like in real life, people are very rarely intentionally 'evil'. They just get a little broken sometimes.
Leslian Lexter Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by Cinemax:
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
Which Patron does Wyll have?
Well, having an evil patron who makes him do evil things does not make him evil.
Sure it does. He made the pact.



Originally posted by Miranda Aldaria:
You can have Lae'zel with you. She is pragmatic and values strength, regardless of alignment as far as I can tell.

Shadowheart is also neutral as well. So long as your actions align with her goals, she don't give a crap.

Lazael is clearly lawful evil. Sure hes pragmatic and values strenght, but she also doesnt give two cents about anyone she considers below her and will actively try to persuade the main character into ignoring people in need.

Shadowheart i find hard to consider neutral aswell. She serves an evil god and is willing to kill innocents in the name of pursuing her faith.
Leslian Lexter Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:25am 
Originally posted by Krypto:
All of them have that potential, Larian really focused on trying to make characters with depth and even the ones who don't seem like good people initially open up over time. Some of them have spent their lives being indoctrinated, some of them made critical mistakes they're still reeling from. But, just like in real life, people are very rarely intentionally 'evil'. They just get a little broken sometimes.
Sure, people are very rarely intentionally evil. But were not talking about whos evil, were talking about whos good :D

I dont think i would consider someones whos been indoctrinated into doing evil things, a good guy.
jonnin Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:25am 
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
Originally posted by Cinemax:
Wyll and Karlach are pure good guys.
Which Patron does Wyll have?
an evil one... but this does not reflect on his moral compass or outlook. He is a good guy. Very elric, really

but... laz and ast, even they are ... not entirely evil. Ast has a disease that comes with uncontrollable urges which lead to evil acts, and has been abused by his 'mentor' harshly. Laz is a bully because her people bully everyone, even each other, constantly: she thinks that is how one deals with others for any normal conversation and she thinks she is superior to everyone else due to race. But she is also clearly starting to question her kin and society.
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Krypto Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
Originally posted by Krypto:
All of them have that potential, Larian really focused on trying to make characters with depth and even the ones who don't seem like good people initially open up over time. Some of them have spent their lives being indoctrinated, some of them made critical mistakes they're still reeling from. But, just like in real life, people are very rarely intentionally 'evil'. They just get a little broken sometimes.
Sure, people are very rarely intentionally evil. But were not talking about whos evil, were talking about whos good :D

I dont think i would consider someones whos been indoctrinated into doing evil things, a good guy.

You sure, because that described Shadowheart to a T and yet you put her as borderline. Both Lae'zel and Shadowheart's arcs are, at least partially, about overcoming the lies in their life that put them on their current path. For Lae'zel thats Githyanky culture and Vlaakith's lies and for Shadowheart that's the cult of Shar.
Last edited by Krypto; Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:28am
Blackfrost Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
Shadowheart i find hard to consider neutral aswell. She serves an evil god and is willing to kill innocents in the name of pursuing her faith.

Yet she shows remorse and unease being a ♥♥♥♥♥ since the very beginning, and later on you can influence her and cause her to become Good.
Last edited by Blackfrost; Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:29am
Leslian Lexter Aug 19, 2023 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by jonnin:
Originally posted by Leslian Lexter:
Which Patron does Wyll have?
an evil one... but this does not reflect on his moral compass or outlook. He is a good guy. Very elric, really

but... laz and ast, even they are ... not entirely evil. Ast has a disease that comes with uncontrollable urges which lead to evil acts, and has been abused by his 'mentor' harshly. Laz is a bully because her people bully everyone, even each other, constantly: she thinks that is how one deals with others for any normal conversation and she thinks she is superior to everyone else due to race. But she is also clearly starting to question her kin and society.
Right, i guess most of the companions can go through an evolution into being more or less good? Lets primarily consider how they come off, in the beginning of the adventure though.

And i believe, that even if you have good reasons to excuse your evil deed, doesnt make the deeds less evil. Astarion is still evil, even though he has a somewhat sympathetic motivation for being evil
To Break it down

Wyll is probably Lawful Good, despite being a warlock he very much strives for goodness and is willing to put aside his own well being for the greater good. Which says alot about his character.

Karlach is probably Chaotic Good, she seems ok with murder and mayham if they are evil. But is very much against hurting the innocent, and will kill you should you cross that line and without remorse. She cares nothing for laws though, and has her own moral code.

Astarion is probably Neutral Evil if not Chaotic Evil, part of this is because he's a Vampire Spawn. Becoming a Vampire normally pushes your alignment to evil, its probably the same for him. So maybe his nature is to blame, no matter what you think--- he still enjoys murder, mayham, and cruelty.

Gale: Gale appears to be Lawful but is somewhat ambiguous on his moral compass. He's clearly ok with doing what ever for power, but draws the line at hurting innocents. But his own self preservation takes precedent over his morality. He isn't quite evil, as he has a near breakdown if you kill the druids. I'd put him at True Neutral, or Lawful Neutral since most wizards are lawful i'll lean that way.

Minthara is probably Lawful Evil, both because she's a drow and because she's leading a cult and demands loyalty. She does consider offing you at one point but stays her hand when she thinks your useful---she might be Chaotic Evil since paladins aren't restricted to lawful anymore, and Drow are notoriously chaotic for the most part. Either way she's evil!

Halsin: Neutral Good, or Chaotic good, probably more neutral, and he seems to have a good heart and fights for just reasons. But he also ignored protocol, hid things from the grove and kind of manipulated you into helping him before he'd help you. Over all i think he's your a typical goodie goodie druid. Though i could see the argument for him being true neutral i think he leans more good.

No idea about later companions but of the starting ones of Act 1 this is my own assessment.
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