slight of hand advantage , and pickpocket does it work?

[wei270]

when you are pick pocketing does slight of hand advantage actually works? becuase it seems you only rolling once.

[orthostatic]

i thought sleight+1 lowered the DC your roll had to meet, and that "advantage" is a separate thing that adds another die.

boosting sleight definitely works though. boost it enough and your roll targets are negative numbers for lots of critical stuff, and easier to scum-reload when going for harder bits.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

From what I can tell advantage from like enhance ability doesn't seem to be working on pick pocketing attempts at all. It doesn't seem like guidance works either because I can try to pick pocket someone and the bonuses I see don't change and it doesn't show me as having advantage.

That said I am 99% sure the pick pocket dice rolls are rigged against you. I have a stupidly high bonus to picking pockets, as Astarion its like a static +12. So that means out of every 20 attempts I might fail once since most of the time the DC is less than 13. I cannot get more than two successes in a row without rolling a one. Flat never happens every time I go to steal things even though most of the time I only need to not roll a nat 1 I get caught every 1-3 attempts every time like clockwork over and over and over again. It happens far too regularly to be a coincidence.

[wei270]

ok thx i think that basicly comfirms it you get no advantage from pick pocket, and only static +1 or 2 bonuns works

[Ghiron]

Advantage does work. Open combat log and mouseover the sleight of hand checks to confirm for yourself.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:

From what I can tell advantage from like enhance ability doesn't seem to be working on pick pocketing attempts at all. It doesn't seem like guidance works either because I can try to pick pocket someone and the bonuses I see don't change and it doesn't show me as having advantage.

That said I am 99% sure the pick pocket dice rolls are rigged against you. I have a stupidly high bonus to picking pockets, as Astarion its like a static +12. So that means out of every 20 attempts I might fail once since most of the time the DC is less than 13. I cannot get more than two successes in a row without rolling a one. Flat never happens every time I go to steal things even though most of the time I only need to not roll a nat 1 I get caught every 1-3 attempts every time like clockwork over and over and over again. It happens far too regularly to be a coincidence.

You must be misunderstanding. The DC it shows you when you hover an item is the DC with your bonuses *already applied*. So if it says 25, that means the DC in reality is a lot higher, and with your bonuses you have to hit a nat 20 to succeed.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:

From what I can tell advantage from like enhance ability doesn't seem to be working on pick pocketing attempts at all. It doesn't seem like guidance works either because I can try to pick pocket someone and the bonuses I see don't change and it doesn't show me as having advantage.

That said I am 99% sure the pick pocket dice rolls are rigged against you. I have a stupidly high bonus to picking pockets, as Astarion its like a static +12. So that means out of every 20 attempts I might fail once since most of the time the DC is less than 13. I cannot get more than two successes in a row without rolling a one. Flat never happens every time I go to steal things even though most of the time I only need to not roll a nat 1 I get caught every 1-3 attempts every time like clockwork over and over and over again. It happens far too regularly to be a coincidence.

You must be misunderstanding. The DC it shows you when you hover an item is the DC with your bonuses *already applied*. So if it says 25, that means the DC in reality is a lot higher, and with your bonuses you have to hit a nat 20 to succeed.

That actually makes a lot of sense but if that's how it works. I was thinking the target roll was the DC.

[whydidichoosethatusername]

Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:

So that means out of every 20 attempts I might fail once since most of the time the DC is less than 13. I cannot get more than two successes in a row without rolling a one. Flat never happens every time I go to steal things even though most of the time I only need to not roll a nat 1 I get caught every 1-3 attempts every time like clockwork over and over and over again. It happens far too regularly to be a coincidence.

turn off karmic dice. it’s limiting strings of success and strings of failures. it might be great if you aren’t a save scummer, but makes it harder if you are. I noticed my astarion pickpocket successes went way up when I turned it off bc most of my roll targets are well under 10. but i’ve also lost on rolls that required 0, so apparently you can still nat 1 on a guaranteed pickpocket

[pascal.difolco]

Originally posted by Ghiron:

Advantage does work. Open combat log and mouseover the sleight of hand checks to confirm for yourself.

Yep confirmed, you don't see it in the pickpocket (bad) UI but it's in the log