Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Zartanyen Aug 18, 2023 @ 3:22am
Why the lack of deities? Also shadow heart should worship Mask.
I don't understand why with all the forgotten real deities available they used so few.

They have all these evil companions I guess they and every evil person worships Talos because that's all their is for evil gods beyond racial ones. Can't count Shar as she's not a option so shadow heart must be her only follower.

No specialty priest or redesigned sub classes around the forgotten realms gods, then use the trickery subclass and don't add Mask as a god?? make shadow heart worship Shar because you didn't put Mask in when her subclass would be the perfect fit.

I want to play a evil cleric or paladin I get Talos and that's it ( RP be damned if it doesn't fit my character) unless I get the Shar mod because they took Shar option out of the game but left all the dialog stuff there.

Love to know was it laziness or does the D&D licence only give you so many options then you have to buy extra's after that. ( knowing WoTC I wouldn't doubt you need to buy everything separately and the licence just gives you the ability to buy them.)
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sam_502 Aug 18, 2023 @ 3:24am 
adding alignments is a beast unto itself son. You should play bg2, they dont gave alignments here
Zartanyen Aug 18, 2023 @ 3:26am 
Not just going off alignments, but more the RP value that the different deities represent.
Uncle Brandon Aug 18, 2023 @ 3:31am 
It's odd that Sune (from the Ebberon world) is mentioned in the description on a Lyre instrument but there's nothing more mentioned about Sune in the game that I know of. I've only just finished all of Act 1.
Thylein Aug 18, 2023 @ 3:45am 
Sune is the Goddess of beauty in the Forgotten Realm setting. Her being around is not strange in a Baldur's Gate game
LividSeven Aug 18, 2023 @ 3:59am 
Hoo boy! with the gods alone this game may need like months or years of works - dnd is massive dude cut them some lack
Uncle Brandon Aug 19, 2023 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Thylein:
Sune is the Goddess of beauty in the Forgotten Realm setting. Her being around is not strange in a Baldur's Gate game

True. And I really want to see more of Sune in BG3. She's probably my favorite.
Moonshae Nov 25, 2024 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by UncleB:
It's odd that Sune (from the Ebberon world) is mentioned in the description on a Lyre instrument but there's nothing more mentioned about Sune in the game that I know of. I've only just finished all of Act 1.
Sune quite a common god in forgotten realms, she's not limited to ebberon.
seeker1 Nov 25, 2024 @ 2:00pm 
You can expand other classes to get deities with mods. Looks like Larian originally planned this, then scrapped it for anyone besides clerics.

You can expand the list of available deities with other mods.

However, don't expect much additional content in either case. Interestingly, Paladins CAN get cleric-like deity dialogue, but druids and other classes won't.

AFAIK, you might see some interesting interactions if you use the mods that expand the deity list to include Shar (for the player), or the Dead Three, or a handful of others, but for most of the other expanded deities, it will just totally be flavor.
GriffinPilgrim Nov 25, 2024 @ 2:17pm 
Shadowheart's entire story is based around worshipping Shar so of course she shouldn't worship Mask. Shar also has Trickery as a domain. Also Mask has been dead for a while and is only questionably alive now.
In more general terms Talos is not the only evil god option, you also have Lloth, Gruumish and Tiamat.
Yes, there are a great many other gods out there, rather more than are reasonable to program into a video game. They provided 22 options for the player, I think that's generous enough.

Originally posted by UncleB:
It's odd that Sune (from the Ebberon world) is mentioned in the description on a Lyre instrument but there's nothing more mentioned about Sune in the game that I know of. I've only just finished all of Act 1.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that Sune is an Ebberon deity; she has been in the Forgotten Realms since it existed and as far as I know she doesn't exist on Ebberon. She predates Ebberon. Hell, she predates Forgotten Realms, as an official product at least, since her first appearance was in Dragon Magazine in 1981 in an article by Ed Greenwood, which would be after he had come up with FR but before it became a licensed D&D setting.

Originally posted by Thylein:
Sune is the Goddess of beauty in the Forgotten Realm setting. Her being around is not strange in a Baldur's Gate game
Not that strange. She's a major deity but all that popular with adventurering clerics. Adventures are risky, her cleric might break a nail...
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jk2l Nov 25, 2024 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by Zartanyen:
I don't understand why with all the forgotten real deities available they used so few.

They have all these evil companions I guess they and every evil person worships Talos because that's all their is for evil gods beyond racial ones. Can't count Shar as she's not a option so shadow heart must be her only follower.

No specialty priest or redesigned sub classes around the forgotten realms gods, then use the trickery subclass and don't add Mask as a god?? make shadow heart worship Shar because you didn't put Mask in when her subclass would be the perfect fit.

I want to play a evil cleric or paladin I get Talos and that's it ( RP be damned if it doesn't fit my character) unless I get the Shar mod because they took Shar option out of the game but left all the dialog stuff there.

Love to know was it laziness or does the D&D licence only give you so many options then you have to buy extra's after that. ( knowing WoTC I wouldn't doubt you need to buy everything separately and the licence just gives you the ability to buy them.)

The Shar dialogue in there is probably Shadowheart origin specific dialogue. If you play shadowheart you get access to it.

I think they left Shar out is because there are big chunk of story line involved Shar and can complicate the writing if they allow other character to be Sharran.

E.g. are you part of the team Shadowheart retrieve the artifact? Are you also sent by mother superior? If they left player be Sharran it's probably need a big chunk of specific diagloue and option involved in game which maybe too much effort

Same for some evil god like Bane, Bhaal...etc where it won't make sense if you are part of the cultist if you go against the dead three.

The current deity list is quite big already tbh
Hex Nov 25, 2024 @ 3:27pm 
They probably didn't want to offend people by forcing a deity choice on them, or the consequences of being faithless.

Or they simply ran out of time/money and certain things had to be scrapped, like the entire 4th chapter. There's a reason why Ch3 feels so over-stuffed and bloated.
Last edited by Hex; Nov 25, 2024 @ 3:28pm
GAMER3223 Dec 14, 2024 @ 7:15pm 
ever heard of Lolth?
Driss Dec 14, 2024 @ 10:58pm 
Modern writers dont really understand (or believe in) the concept of good and evil, which is why all characters have a grey morality now.
jk2l Dec 15, 2024 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by Driss:
Modern writers dont really understand (or believe in) the concept of good and evil, which is why all characters have a grey morality now.

Not all characters only some of them.

Gale, shadowheart, Laezel are the only morally grey one.

Gale as mystra chosen but also got greedy with power. I think he is like true neutral

Shadowheart as shar worshipper she probably start as more like chaotic neutral.

Laezel as githyanki, they are just born racist. But they don't kill for the sake of killing (unless it is mindflayer then go full racist mode) but dont feel the need to help the weaks. Probably chaotic neutral

Astarion is obviously evil, he even whined at saving druid grove. But he stuck with the party because of the artifact. He don't have much choice

Wyll and Karlach are obvious lawful and chaotic good, if helping goblin raid druid grove. They leave party.
Hex Dec 15, 2024 @ 6:20am 
It is VERY easy to tell who is what. When you pet scratch for the first time, everyone who likes that is good, everyone else is evil. Simple as
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