Nere fight impossible without prior knowledge of it

[akakiryuu]

Like you cant talk your way out of the encounter and you start surrounded. Its things like this that makes me okay with save scumming. its impossible to beat blind.

[Ancient Toaster]

Bro, you can literally let the mf die and you don't even have to fight him. You can also make a deal with the non-cultist Duergar and they join you in battle.

Just don't have any of your characters stand near the lava and that fight is easy.

[akakiryuu]

Originally posted by AncientToaster:

Bro, you can literally let the mf die and you don't even have to fight him. You can also make a deal with the non-cultist Duergar and they join you in battle.

Just don't have any of your characters stand near the lava and that fight is easy.

and i didnt know a fight was gonna happen so i wasnt carefully maneuvering my party before every time i talk to someone.

[Gesto]

I tore his ass open like a bagga chips.

[Moffin Bovin]

the fist time i did that fight i got boned by initiative and one character got shoved right into the lava before before i even had a chance to act with anyone.

reloaded.Got better initiative rolls. suddenly its much easier.

All hail RNGesus.

[cfehunter]

I beat it blind first time. It was messy AF, but playing a warlock with knockback on eldritch blast around lava pits and bottomless pits made it a lot easier.


The two times I've completed the game since I've just
Minor Spoiler: stolen the runepowder from the gnomes and dropped it right in the middle of the area. You have to sacrifice one of your party members to set it off, but it instantly kills everything in the area. It kills all the gnomes too, but they don't matter to the plot as far as I can tell

[Quillithe]

If you walked into the middle of a group of people and then tried to fight them all at once only to discover that it's hard, I dunno what to say.

If you were planning on fighting him, you can either talk to the dwarves first or just attack the dwarves first instead of fighting both at once.

If you didn't expect that a fight might be a possibility when digging up a true soul with a tadpole in their head that you may have already had a quest to kill, I also dunno what to say.

[PoxComet]

Originally posted by Ephemerant:

I just did it blind. I knew that my priority was killing Nere, so when I spoke with Elder Brithvar or whatever, and he suggested betrayal because they haven't been paid, I immediately took him up on it.

In the end, only had to kill like 5-6 people, and I Intimidated the Elder to free the Gnomes. Easy peasy.

This is a game where I really think you benefit heavily from talking to *everyone.*

Not just everyone but every animal as well, so many times you can get the animals to turn on their masters. Plus the animals say some funny stuff.

[DyD&Marina]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

If you walked into the middle of a group of people and then tried to fight them all at once only to discover that it's hard, I dunno what to say.

If you were planning on fighting him, you can either talk to the dwarves first or just attack the dwarves first instead of fighting both at once.

If you didn't expect that a fight might be a possibility when digging up a true soul with a tadpole in their head that you may have already had a quest to kill, I also dunno what to say.

The game force to fight them.

And no is not true you can expect this fight, specially because you can be friendly with all other "humanoid" true souls in act 1.

And no again you don't necesseraly have a quest for kill nere when you first encounter him.

There are 2-3 fights in act 1 a bit random and lack of the normal ways of dealing the game showed to us in act 1.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by DyD&Marina:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

If you walked into the middle of a group of people and then tried to fight them all at once only to discover that it's hard, I dunno what to say.

If you were planning on fighting him, you can either talk to the dwarves first or just attack the dwarves first instead of fighting both at once.

If you didn't expect that a fight might be a possibility when digging up a true soul with a tadpole in their head that you may have already had a quest to kill, I also dunno what to say.

The game force to fight them.

And no is not true you can expect this fight, specially because you can be friendly with all other "humanoid" true souls in act 1.

And no again you don't necesseraly have a quest for kill nere when you first encounter him.

There are 2-3 fights in act 1 a bit random and lack of the normal ways of dealing the game showed to us in act 1.

Nope, you absolutely don't need to fight everyone at once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I25PyQO5eE

Nere will help you kill the dwarves and not attack you

Now, if you stop him from killing the gnomes, then yes. But if you were planning on freeing the gnomes, surely you might expect that digging out more people keeping them enslaved to fight all at once is maybe not the best approach?

[DyD&Marina]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by DyD&Marina:

The game force to fight them.

And no is not true you can expect this fight, specially because you can be friendly with all other "humanoid" true souls in act 1.

And no again you don't necesseraly have a quest for kill nere when you first encounter him.

There are 2-3 fights in act 1 a bit random and lack of the normal ways of dealing the game showed to us in act 1.

Nope, you absolutely don't need to fight everyone at once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I25PyQO5eE

Nere will help you kill the dwarves and not attack you

Now, if you stop him from killing the gnomes, then yes. But if you were planning on freeing the gnomes, surely you might expect that digging out more people keeping them enslaved to fight all at once is maybe not the best approach?

Seems you not understand how a crpg, specially dungeon and dragon based work.

There are multiple choices and some dialogue can fail on Dice.

But Nere situation lack of this dialogue.

And no you can't expect to need to fight Nere, because with all the other "humanoid" true souls you encounter in act 1, you have always a way to talk with them and get friendly without kill nobody.

Both if you are playing evil or good.

Simple Nere situation isn't complete compared to other true souls of act 1.

Lacking on rpg part, simple a poor work this part of the game, compared to the rest of act 1.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by DyD&Marina:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Nope, you absolutely don't need to fight everyone at once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I25PyQO5eE

Nere will help you kill the dwarves and not attack you

Now, if you stop him from killing the gnomes, then yes. But if you were planning on freeing the gnomes, surely you might expect that digging out more people keeping them enslaved to fight all at once is maybe not the best approach?

Seems you not understand how a crpg, specially dungeon and dragon based work.

There are multiple choices and some dialogue can fail on Dice.

But Nere situation lack of this dialogue.

And no you can't expect to need to fight Nere, because with all the other "humanoid" true souls you encounter in act 1, you have always a way to talk with them and get friendly without kill nobody.

Both if you are playing evil or good.

Simple Nere situation isn't complete compared to other true souls of act 1.

Lacking on rpg part.

I literally linked a video of him NOT being hostile, so I'm not sure why you responded like you can't talk to him and make him friendly.

[DyD&Marina]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by DyD&Marina:

Seems you not understand how a crpg, specially dungeon and dragon based work.

There are multiple choices and some dialogue can fail on Dice.

But Nere situation lack of this dialogue.

And no you can't expect to need to fight Nere, because with all the other "humanoid" true souls you encounter in act 1, you have always a way to talk with them and get friendly without kill nobody.

Both if you are playing evil or good.

Simple Nere situation isn't complete compared to other true souls of act 1.

Lacking on rpg part.

I literally linked a video of him NOT being hostile, so I'm not sure why you responded like you can't talk to him and make him friendly.

You are take a video show the problem, but you not understand.

You show a video where you are forced in a specific way, evil, for keep him friendly.

All the other true souls you find in act 1 can be friendly by simple a persuasion or similar type of skill checks.

This is for keep the roleplaying option for the players.

Instead in Nere situation this is missing and is a in important part for an rpg.

Missing roleplaying options compared to the rest of the true souls situation, show Nere was poorly handled by larian, probably they was in rush with this part of the game.

[living_one]

I beat it blind. The only reason I reloaded a couple of times is my temporary allies kept getting deep fried in lava. That's my XP dang it!

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by DyD&Marina:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

I literally linked a video of him NOT being hostile, so I'm not sure why you responded like you can't talk to him and make him friendly.

You are take a video show the problem, but you not understand.

You show a video where you are forced in a specific way, evil, for keep him friendly.

All the other true souls you find in act 1 can be friendly by simple a persuasion or similar type of skill checks.

This is for keep the roleplaying option for the players.

Instead in Nere situation this is missing and is a in important part for an rpg.

Missing roleplaying options compared to the rest of the true souls situation, show Nere was poorly handled by larian, probably they was in rush with this part of the game.

I don't think it's badly handled to have a situation where working with the evil drow slaver involves them doing something...evil.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by living_one:

I beat it blind. The only reason I reloaded a couple of times is my temporary allies kept getting deep fried in lava. That's my XP dang it!

lol, that's mean. I let the dwarves go without the slaves after