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meleander Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:17pm
NEED SPOILERS: Philomeen
Should I kill her? Or let her leave?

She sounds like an IRA (Irish Republican Army) member - guys who were detonating bombs in Ireland.

Please give me some spoilers - what will happen if I let her leave and what if I don't?
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Kryldost Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:25pm 
You dont have to kill her to get the goods. If you decide to fight her, dont surprise her and make sure you end it quick before she blows up the barrel. Or blow up the barrel yourself from a distance and use the vial. I prefer to steal the barrel first, then wether she lives or die depends on what kind of gameplay im doing. Lets say I RP a more sadistic character... She will die. xD

Anyway I let her live this time and she hasnt shown back up so far.
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meleander Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Kryldost:
You dont have to kill her to get the goods. If you decide to fight her, dont surprise her and make sure you end it quick before she blows up the barrel. Or blow up the barrel yourself from a distance and use the vial. I prefer to steal the barrel first, then wether she lives or die depends on what kind of gameplay im doing. Lets say I RP a more sadistic character... She will die. xD

Anyway I let her live this time and she hasnt shown back up so far.

How did you steal the barrel?
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meleander Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Kryldost:
You dont have to kill her to get the goods. If you decide to fight her, dont surprise her and make sure you end it quick before she blows up the barrel. Or blow up the barrel yourself from a distance and use the vial. I prefer to steal the barrel first, then wether she lives or die depends on what kind of gameplay im doing. Lets say I RP a more sadistic character... She will die. xD

Anyway I let her live this time and she hasnt shown back up so far.

And a follow up question: what will she do in Baldur's Gate if you let her go with the barrel?
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Doomvora Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
Both options are fine.

You can steal the bomb and pickpocket her vial (with invisibility for both) if you want a neat reaction.

Otherwise it's just your own personal judgement, she's an ironhand so...
Last edited by Doomvora; Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:35pm
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_Fell Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
ungroup your party, initiate conversation, click one of the buttons in the bottom left of the screen to change to another character, steal. just because you are talking, doesnt mean everyone is talking.
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meleander Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Doomvora:
Both options are fine.

You can steal the bomb and pickpocket her vial (with invisibility for both) if you want a neat reaction.

Otherwise it's just your own personal judgement, she's an ironhand so...

What is an Ironhand?
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meleander Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by _Fell:
ungroup your party, initiate conversation, click one of the buttons in the bottom left of the screen to change to another character, steal. just because you are talking, doesnt mean everyone is talking.

Ohhh didn't know about that, thanks :D
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Doomvora Aug 17, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by meleander:

What is an Ironhand?

Speak to the gnomes. basically gnome supremacists
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Kryldost Aug 17, 2023 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by meleander:
Originally posted by Kryldost:
You dont have to kill her to get the goods. If you decide to fight her, dont surprise her and make sure you end it quick before she blows up the barrel. Or blow up the barrel yourself from a distance and use the vial. I prefer to steal the barrel first, then wether she lives or die depends on what kind of gameplay im doing. Lets say I RP a more sadistic character... She will die. xD

Anyway I let her live this time and she hasnt shown back up so far.

How did you steal the barrel?

Stealthed around her line of sight, invisibility works as well
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Erke Aug 19, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Kryldost:
You dont have to kill her to get the goods. If you decide to fight her, dont surprise her and make sure you end it quick before she blows up the barrel. Or blow up the barrel yourself from a distance and use the vial. I prefer to steal the barrel first, then wether she lives or die depends on what kind of gameplay im doing. Lets say I RP a more sadistic character... She will die. xD

Anyway I let her live this time and she hasnt shown back up so far.
I mean... She clearly stated that they were planning a terrorist attack in Baldur's Gate, blowing stuff up, most probably innocent people along with it...
So letting her go -WITH- the barrel or the vial should be considered an evil thing...
Luckily I was able to steal both the barrel and the vial during our dialogue.... But I wish there were more dialogue and persuation checks before we part ways so perhaps we could convince her to turn away from her cause and not be a terrorist...
Because right now I'm in the dillema of should I kill her to stop her... Or just let her go believing she's got the explosive but doesn't...
What do you guys think?

BTW is there any kind of follow ups in the following acts? And if so, would stealing both explosives change anything?
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meleander Aug 20, 2023 @ 2:11am 
Originally posted by Erke:
Originally posted by Kryldost:
You dont have to kill her to get the goods. If you decide to fight her, dont surprise her and make sure you end it quick before she blows up the barrel. Or blow up the barrel yourself from a distance and use the vial. I prefer to steal the barrel first, then wether she lives or die depends on what kind of gameplay im doing. Lets say I RP a more sadistic character... She will die. xD

Anyway I let her live this time and she hasnt shown back up so far.
I mean... She clearly stated that they were planning a terrorist attack in Baldur's Gate, blowing stuff up, most probably innocent people along with it...
So letting her go -WITH- the barrel or the vial should be considered an evil thing...
Luckily I was able to steal both the barrel and the vial during our dialogue.... But I wish there were more dialogue and persuation checks before we part ways so perhaps we could convince her to turn away from her cause and not be a terrorist...
Because right now I'm in the dillema of should I kill her to stop her... Or just let her go believing she's got the explosive but doesn't...
What do you guys think?

BTW is there any kind of follow ups in the following acts? And if so, would stealing both explosives change anything?

Yeah, I'm interested in that too. Also I let her go without any gunpowdre and other gnomes just treated me like I helped them get it XD
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Ultima0 Aug 20, 2023 @ 2:06pm 
If you steal it mid convo then take the deal she gets mad and then the game just annihilates her. She is completely missing now. And I can see invisibility so I know she didnt use the door. It was kinda funny XD. Also dont leave bombs in the hands od terrorists. Im only on act 1 but when you hear the words "Im a freedom fighter." And "We need these explosives to prove a point." Thats a terry. Just dont kill her if you're a pally. ANNIHILATE HER!!
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Erke Aug 21, 2023 @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by Ultima0:
If you steal it mid convo then take the deal she gets mad and then the game just annihilates her. She is completely missing now. And I can see invisibility so I know she didnt use the door. It was kinda funny XD. Also dont leave bombs in the hands od terrorists. Im only on act 1 but when you hear the words "Im a freedom fighter." And "We need these explosives to prove a point." Thats a terry. Just dont kill her if you're a pally. ANNIHILATE HER!!
I mean, escaping from your masters, without doing anything to them, to set off bombs in BG is... Wrong...
So I stole the barrel and the vial then knocked her out... Perhaps she'll have time to think about her life choices... By the time she wakes up, they will be freed anyway...
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Brouk Pytlik Sep 14, 2023 @ 11:58am 
She DID try to hurt the masters - the cave-in of True Soul Nere didn't happen on its own and if you have some luck with rolls, one of the gnomes tell you that it was her who caused it. As for the bomb and its use: It turns out that their goal is partially aligned with yours. And you can actually be the one who sets it off in BG to weaken one of the three big baddies.
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Lani Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by meleander:
Should I kill her? Or let her leave?

She sounds like an IRA (Irish Republican Army) member - guys who were detonating bombs in Ireland.

Please give me some spoilers - what will happen if I let her leave and what if I don't?

Isn't it interesting how the difference between freedom fighter and terrorist is mostly one of which side you sympathize with? I like how this game makes it ambiguous to the player what they're dealing with. Storytelling is much better when the Alignment system is not there or hidden in the background.

In my previous playthroughs I somehow never met her, but now that I understand she has a nice irish lilt I'll make a point of looking her up.
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