Need a Sorcerer, who should one between Gayle and Wyll ?

[Ardordor]

I mean lorewise, i'm a dnd player so i understand that i'm not really lorewise here, but, with a big IF, who should be Sorcerer ?

Maybe Gayle became one after what happened with Mystra.

Or maybe Wyll does not have Hellish powers but sorcerer one with hist pact

What do you think ?

[Fizzie]

Im in the same dilemma. currently respecing Gale into a sorcerer. Its charisma based (which gale seems to lean towards), and Im really trying to learn how to maximize sorcerer point usage. Im only lv 4 so im still figuring things out, but Gale turning into a sorcerer feels like a safe change as theyre both full casters

[lazarusblack]

I havent tried to multiclass conpanions. Is it possiboe? If so, Wyll, obviously. Warlock is already charisma based so you don't have to worry too much about stat changes. It would also synergise well with his warlock class and general themes and vibes.

[Chaosolous]

Make Lae’zel your caster.

[Crom]

Originally posted by Ardordor:

I mean lorewise, i'm a dnd player so i understand that i'm not really lorewise here, but, with a big IF, who should be Sorcerer ?

Maybe Gayle became one after what happened with Mystra.

Or maybe Wyll does not have Hellish powers but sorcerer one with hist pact

What do you think ?

Lorewise? None. Sorceres is P2W class for people who cant play pen and paper games.

[Ephemerant]

Originally posted by Ardordor:

I mean lorewise, i'm a dnd player so i understand that i'm not really lorewise here, but, with a big IF, who should be Sorcerer ?

Maybe Gayle became one after what happened with Mystra.

Or maybe Wyll does not have Hellish powers but sorcerer one with hist pact

What do you think ?

Sounds like it should be you.

[Rufus]

I think Wyll would be a good sorcerer with his Powers coming from a pact with the Devil.

Sadly, Gale being a Wizard is a Lot dif from a sorcerer. Wizards usually need to study a Lot to learn How to use spells and everything, while sorcerers are more like... "Something give me Powers".

So... Again, I would say Wyll. ^w^

[Ardordor]

Originally posted by Rufus:

I think Wyll would be a good sorcerer with his Powers coming from a pact with the Devil.

Sadly, Gale being a Wizard is a Lot dif from a sorcerer. Wizards usually need to study a Lot to learn How to use spells and everything, while sorcerers are more like... "Something give me Powers".

So... Again, I would say Wyll. ^w^

I do agree on Wizard, but, gayle became lvl 1 with his incident, he still have his knowledge but cant really use it.
With the thing in his chest, he could be a sorcerer just because of this ?

[Rufus]

Originally posted by Ardordor:

Originally posted by Rufus:

I think Wyll would be a good sorcerer with his Powers coming from a pact with the Devil.

Sadly, Gale being a Wizard is a Lot dif from a sorcerer. Wizards usually need to study a Lot to learn How to use spells and everything, while sorcerers are more like... "Something give me Powers".

So... Again, I would say Wyll. ^w^

I do agree on Wizard, but, gayle became lvl 1 with his incident, he still have his knowledge but cant really use it.
With the thing in his chest, he could be a sorcerer just because of this ?

Oh... I didnt think about that. That IS a great ideia, honestly now I fonte know If Gayle or Wyll would be more cool D:

[Blackfrost]

Lorewise - Gale works as a Sorcerer ( except Draconic Bloodline, arguably ).
Wyll won't, really... he really is a Warlock through and through.

[Ardordor]

Originally posted by Rufus:

Originally posted by Ardordor:

I do agree on Wizard, but, gayle became lvl 1 with his incident, he still have his knowledge but cant really use it.
With the thing in his chest, he could be a sorcerer just because of this ?

Oh... I didnt think about that. That IS a great ideia, honestly now I fonte know If Gayle or Wyll would be more cool D:

Yeaah me too, but thanks for hearing me <3

[Mazzle Dazzle]

I wouldn't respec him, I'd turn Wyll into a multiclass warlock sorcerer.

[Sephiroth]

My main character is a sorceror. All casters in this game are terribly under powered.

Casters in general are lagging behind simple fighter classes. I have always been a sorceror, wizard some kind of cater in previous Baldurs Gate games and NWN , Icewindale 1 and 2.

This game is the worst experience I have ever had using casters. They are severely under powered.

I have a easier time just using a simple fighter who can jump almost anywhere and gets multiple attacks, and multiple actions which multiply a lot ...
about 3 actions per turn then 2 attacks per actions... 6 attacks normally... if I use their free attacks like bash or whatever its called that is more free damage and also can stun them or daze them.

ON TOP OF THAT you get more free damage with reactions. Which are much better than casters. You can react by shield bashing people or which slash attacks. Which can prone, daze or stun them.

So as DEPRESSING AS IT IS CASTERS ARE TERRIBLE IN THIS GAME.
To many reasons concentration mechanic sucks. Don't matter your stats or your feats or build. Try to use improved invisibility and attack... its completely and utterly useless. Casters will not pass the concentration checks or the stealth checks. Never mind.. the enemy can do a search for you on their turn.. again forcing another check... but in my 135 hours I have not had a single successful check when I attacked while using improved invisibility. NOT 1. Every stealth check was a failure and most likely every concentration check was a failure. My character is a SORCOEROR WITH 20 CHARISMA AND 17 DEX ... etc.

I see absolutely no need for casters.

[Ardordor]

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

My main character is a sorceror. All casters in this game are terribly under powered.

Casters in general are lagging behind simple fighter classes. I have always been a sorceror, wizard some kind of cater in previous Baldurs Gate games and NWN , Icewindale 1 and 2.

This game is the worst experience I have ever had using casters. They are severely under powered.

I have a easier time just using a simple fighter who can jump almost anywhere and gets multiple attacks, and multiple actions which multiply a lot ...
about 3 actions per turn then 2 attacks per actions... 6 attacks normally... if I use their free attacks like bash or whatever its called that is more free damage and also can stun them or daze them.

ON TOP OF THAT you get more free damage with reactions. Which are much better than casters. You can react by shield bashing people or which slash attacks. Which can prone, daze or stun them.

So as DEPRESSING AS IT IS CASTERS ARE TERRIBLE IN THIS GAME.
To many reasons concentration mechanic sucks. Don't matter your stats or your feats or build. Try to use improved invisibility and attack... its completely and utterly useless. Casters will not pass the concentration checks or the stealth checks. Never mind.. the enemy can do a search for you on their turn.. again forcing another check... but in my 135 hours I have not had a single successful check when I attacked while using improved invisibility. NOT 1. Every stealth check was a failure and most likely every concentration check was a failure. My character is a SORCOEROR WITH 20 CHARISMA AND 17 DEX ... etc.

I see absolutely no need for casters.

I disagree, casters are pretty ok to me.

[Kafik]

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

Think about how under powered casters are in this game when.....

A figher can simply use a bonus action to JUMP the same distance as a caster spends to cast the fly spell... or the misty step spell....

when a fighter can attack you 7 times in a round with tremendous damage per hit... and still has high HP, armor etc. while a caster has less hp,armor and has terrible physical attacks...

I mean think about it. You can even twin spell and use 2 chromatic orbs with metamagic... yet a simple fighter will be able to deal more damage and actually KILL an enemy on his turn if he chooses.

the fighter will land about 6-7 hits killing someone or multiple while you simply twin cast a chromatic orb... which did negligible damage to 2 or 3 enemies... yes negligible damage.. meaning they basically have 80% of their health still.
Casters= weak and under powered.

Needs to be addressed otherwise every player should just be playing the same class some version of fighter because you can't go wrong its way more powerful

Yeah sounds like you might not be playing the class correctly here. Also maybe you don't know sorcerers can use crossbows? It helps out especially with the small encounters so you don't have to burn through spells and rest all the time. My character is a gnome sorc she's killing things as much as Laezel.

[Sephiroth]

The do a terrible job at making things worth it. The entire action economy for casters just suck.

You cast witches bolt... if it actually lands... and sticks then its still going to cost you another action every turn to use... (even though you literally cast the spell already)...

A smarter way of making this actually useful would be to to make this spell be activated with a quick action OR make it automatically deal damage every turn adjusting the damage output as needed. (decreasing if needed obviously)