Paladin Oathbreaking

[thrythlind]

How well sign-posted are the points where you risk oath-breaking? I can imagine being extremely frustrated at having to reload because my interpretation of an oath differs from that of the developers.

[Dr. Xorin]

In short, you get no warning that you are about to break your oath.

The only indication is to look over your tenets for each oath to get an idea of what types of actions will break it. If I recall the oath of devotion it has in its tenets 'honor' and 'honesty', which means that going back on your word is a no go. I remember in early access that when entering the blighted village if you talk the gobbos into giving you access peacefully and then attack them, you would break your oath of devotion. For oath of the ancients (in EA) and vengeance (in FR) this is not the case because their tenets allows such action.

you can also refer to this video for further explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzljoOJ8sBU

Hope it helped and happy smiting.

[cherub5667]

Yeah when i first came upon Scratch, killed him, than the developers were like "GO TO HELL YOU MONSTER!"

[Zanarkand]

Just becareful if you break your oath in Act 3 you can not become an oathbreaker or renew your oath which also locks you out of respec from Withers. Still no fixes on the most played class . We are up to hotfix 4 now I hope it's fixed soon it's a pretty huge bug

[Morgian]

I encountered it in act 1 during the fight in the goblin lair. Shooting at an archer at the end of the battle suddenly broke the oath. And there is nothing in the tenets about fighting people who already shot you. I forgot about the thing then and stayed oathbreaker, as it is way too easy to lose your oath under these circumstances.

[thrythlind]

That makes me less interested in playing a paladin. It's one thing at the table when you can discuss internal motivations and places where the player and GM can come to a comfortable place.

This sounds like subjecting myself to an arbitrary interpretation with no recourse for discussion.

[Dr. Xorin]

Originally posted by thrythlind:

That makes me less interested in playing a paladin. It's one thing at the table when you can discuss internal motivations and places where the player and GM can come to a comfortable place.

This sounds like subjecting myself to an arbitrary interpretation with no recourse for discussion.

As long as you take either the Oath of Ancients or Oath of Vengeance, you shouldn't feel it too much during your game. Especially, Oath of Vengeance is a relentless ‘the means justify the end’ type and allows for a more morally questionable paladin for your campaign. I took the vengeance oath for my first playthrough and I never managed to break it with my choices, which were semi-good in nature (ie. cough up the money, that missing sister is really not my problem, what OSA violations for the forge employees are you talking about? etc.)

Oath of Devotion on the other hand is very restrictive with its tenets and easy to lose. "Luckily" it is arguably also the 'worse' oath powerwise compared to the other oaths, so not picking it from a combat prowess perspective is not a big loss in my opinion.

But yes, it is a little annoying that there is no warning for oathbreaking. I felt that during early access with the devotion oath, which made me long for the more loose tenets of ancients and vengeance.