THE TRUE CLASS TIER LIST (ONLY S TIER)

[女王 [Queen]]

Things that are like blank/blank are multiclass

S Tier:
Lv11 Sorcerer (Draconic Bloodline) / Lv1 Wizard
Lv9 Monk (Open Hand) / Lv3 Fighter (Battle Master)
Lv12 Cleric (Light Domain)
Lv9 Barbarian (Berserker) / Lv3 Fighter (Battle Master)

[Seswatha]

引用自 Thadeus：

The only good casters are those that don't require a long rest after every fight. So Warlock.

If you calculate the number of spell levels casters can use at each level assuming 2 short rests before long rest it's actually pretty close between warlocks and full casters. But full casters can choose when to go all out and when to hold back.

Also with the amount of supplies in the game you don't really even need to use short rests even on tactician, if you limit long rests it's more of a self imposed restriction.

Also a full caster often just needs to toss a single concentration spell to massively swing a fight and carry their weight anyway, especially if they also have some summons running around.

[Mazzle Dazzle]

引用自 Thadeus：

The only good casters are those that don't require a long rest after every fight. So Warlock.

Can you tell me why other casters need a long rest after every fight? Most fights for me with other casters involve me using one of 12 spells to do something and then spamming cantrips. When I play warlock its usually the same except that spell is hex and I basically short rest every other fight and mostly spam eldritch blast. When I play a wizard, I usually will use an arcane recovery eventually and have roughly half of my spell slots by the time a long rest starts. I also permabuff my party with longstrider which is a free ritual cast, and have a raven familiar that blinds people or use a crab which cripples enemies and gets reactions every turn and a mage hand that throws thrown weapons or straight up bombs or potions that I drop from my inventory.

[ayrtep]

引用自 Seswatha：

Bard)

DEX Swords Bard 10/Fighter 2 with dual hand crossbows. With current ranged slashing flourish implementation can attack 4 times per action, single target or spreading between 2, as long as it has inspirations. Almost a full caster, can grab Haste from Bard secrets.

So playing Bard Collage of Swords ATM and it is my S tier at the moment. Better than my other characters, But I must try the dual hand crossbow thing, need to respec from duelling. Anyway could someone explain the

as long as it has inspirations

bit. What has inspirations got to do with firing hand crossbows?

[Seswatha]

引用自 ayrtep：

引用自 Seswatha：

Bard)

DEX Swords Bard 10/Fighter 2 with dual hand crossbows. With current ranged slashing flourish implementation can attack 4 times per action, single target or spreading between 2, as long as it has inspirations. Almost a full caster, can grab Haste from Bard secrets.

So playing Bard Collage of Swords ATM and it is my S tier at the moment. Better than my other characters, But I must try the dual hand crossbow thing, need to respec from duelling. Anyway could someone explain the

as long as it has inspirations

bit. What has inspirations got to do with firing hand crossbows?

You need to spam ranged slashing flourish for max dpr and it costs inspiration charges.

[parent child bowl]

引用自 yuzhonglu：

Monk 6 gives bonus action, as does Thief 3 for three bonus actions every round.

It doesn't. With your proposed build you have:

1 Action
1 Extra Attack
2 Bonus Actions

The Helmet of Grit provides one Bonus Action when the wearer is at or below 50% hp. Maybe you're wearing that.

[yuzhonglu]

Wholeness of body. Though that's 1/ long rest.

[Paladin Larec]

引用自 .chr：

Things that are like blank/blank are multiclass

S Tier:
Lv11 Sorcerer (Draconic Bloodline) / Lv1 Wizard
Lv9 Monk (Open Hand) / Lv3 Fighter (Battle Master)
Lv12 Cleric (Light Domain)
Lv9 Barbarian (Berserker) / Lv3 Fighter (Battle Master)

No Sorcadin? Paladin 6 / Sorcerer 6 is beyond broke. I'm solo'ing the entire last Ketheric fight.

[Pinhead Larry]

引用自 Paladin Larec：

引用自 .chr：

Things that are like blank/blank are multiclass

S Tier:
Lv11 Sorcerer (Draconic Bloodline) / Lv1 Wizard
Lv9 Monk (Open Hand) / Lv3 Fighter (Battle Master)
Lv12 Cleric (Light Domain)
Lv9 Barbarian (Berserker) / Lv3 Fighter (Battle Master)

No Sorcadin? Paladin 6 / Sorcerer 6 is beyond broke. I'm solo'ing the entire last Ketheric fight.

Sorcadin is good for more smites, but Cleradins are more efficient with the smites. Thunder Cleradins specifically. Why kill Ketheric in 3 rounds of smites when you can kill him in 0 rounds with one smite?

[PocketYoda]

引用自 yuzhonglu：

引用自 Seswatha：

You only have 7 ki points with Monk 6 so more like 2 times every short rest (and it's not six flurry of blows, it's 3 flurry of blows for 6 attacks). I don't think Berserker gives you an extra bonus action, only a way to throw or attack with it (Monk can attack with it but not throw)? You can still have 3 bonus actions using Helm of Grit though if you run around at < 50% hp. Not sure if there's any other item that would work for this purpose here. Still not bad, but I'm not really sure if Barb is worth it for dmg resistance and tossing people. Tossing people is definitely fun, that's for sure.

I think It's pointless to trade actions for bonus actions with the illithid power here, since both of them give you 2 attacks, but attacking twice with an action doesn't cost a ki point.

So at most if hasted you can do 10 attacks per round here, which is still very good. Splashing fighter instead of barb would give you up to 12 attacks once per short rest, but you lose rage and the ability to toss people with a bonus action while raging so your choice. Note that this drops to 8/10 attacks if you don't use Helm of Grit shenanigans for extra bonus action which kind of makes you a glass cannon, but Rage can make up for it.

Monk 6 gives bonus action, as does Thief 3 for three bonus actions every round.

Yeah with Haste lol and shadow monk doesn't need misty step.