Gale's "forced" romance

[CatraGirl]

So apparently some people have real trouble just picking the 2nd dialogue option here, judging by all the whining about the "forced" romance event with Gale:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3021022451

And if you pick the first option, the game literally gives you another choice to back out. You have to pick intimacy TWICE in order to make it this. So if you complain about this scene "being forced on you", that just shows you're apparently incapable of reading and selecting the right dialogue option.

[SnuffSaid]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by Hyena:

Yeah, someone having "love eyes" while they are explaining how much they love someone, that isn't YOU, obviously means they are making moves on you. It's not reasonable to think their thoughts of their love is giving them "love eyes".

Then after expressing his undying love for SOMEONE ELSE, the logical thing to expect from him is that he makes a move on YOU instead.

Gale doesn't make a single move on your during the Mystra magic scene.

You can chose to make a move on him or walk away.

For once you're telling the truth. It's actually not Gale who makes the move without asking, it's you. Your MC, unbidden, sidesteps closer to him, smiles demurely, glances down bashfully, while the narrator tells you how you feel. Gale is smiling back and also being demure, but your MC initiated this rather than him, he/she is the one who stepped closer.

None of this involves any choice or input from you, your MC takes on a life and mind of their own.

[Hyena]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by Hyena:

Yeah, someone having "love eyes" while they are explaining how much they love someone, that isn't YOU, obviously means they are making moves on you. It's not reasonable to think their thoughts of their love is giving them "love eyes".

Then after expressing his undying love for SOMEONE ELSE, the logical thing to expect from him is that he makes a move on YOU instead.

Gale doesn't make a single move on your during the Mystra magic scene.

You can chose to make a move on him or walk away.

You're forgetting about the scene right after, when he tricks you into a romantic date beneath the stars and violates you.

[Calv]

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

Originally posted by Calv:

Gale doesn't make a single move on your during the Mystra magic scene.

You can chose to make a move on him or walk away.

For once you're telling the truth. It's actually not Gale who makes the move without asking, it's you. Your MC, unbidden, sidesteps closer to him, smiles demurely, glances down bashfully, while the narrator tells you how you feel about the spell and the connection to Mystra. Gale is smiling back and also being demure, but your MC initiated this rather than him, he/she is the one who stepped closer.

None of this involves any choice or input from you, your MC takes on a life and mind of their own. Just like in every, single other dialogue and cutscene in the entire game

FTFY

[Calv]

Originally posted by Hyena:

Originally posted by Calv:

Gale doesn't make a single move on your during the Mystra magic scene.

You can chose to make a move on him or walk away.

You're forgetting about the scene right after, when he tricks you into a romantic date beneath the stars and violates you.

No clue what you're talking about.

He showed me a magic spell and his love of Mystra, we talked at the tiefling party about his cat, and he hasn't approached me since.

[SnuffSaid]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

For once you're telling the truth. It's actually not Gale who makes the move without asking, it's you. Your MC, unbidden, sidesteps closer to him, smiles demurely, glances down bashfully, while the narrator tells you how you feel about the spell and the connection to Mystra. Gale is smiling back and also being demure, but your MC initiated this rather than him, he/she is the one who stepped closer.

None of this involves any choice or input from you, your MC takes on a life and mind of their own. Just like in every, single other dialogue and cutscene in the entire game

FTFY

Lying was one thing, now you're literally putting words in my mouth as opposed to figuratively.

I do find it deliciously ironic though that the most righteous people tend to have no depths they won't sink to.

[Hyena]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by Hyena:

You're forgetting about the scene right after, when he tricks you into a romantic date beneath the stars and violates you.

No clue what you're talking about.

He showed me a magic spell and his love of Mystra, we talked at the tiefling party about his cat, and he hasn't approached me since.

Well in this playthrough I ignored him so we didn't have the Mystra talk. The only times I talked to him is when the wizard/messenger showed up and I said Gale should decide for himself if he wants to blow up.

After that, he wanted to talk to me in private. I figured it was about him blowing himself up but when I accepted to talk in private he took me to a romantic date under the stars to have his way with me.

[Calv]

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

Originally posted by Calv:

FTFY

Lying was one thing, now you're literally putting words in my mouth as opposed to figuratively.

I do find it deliciously ironic though that the most righteous people tend to have no depths they won't sink to.

Oh the irony of you being upset at someone putting words in your mouth. Literally couldn't make this up.

[opus132]

Originally posted by ArchLobster:

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

100%

Lae'zel said she wanted to jump my characters bones, I said "well thats nice but no thanks"

that was the last I heard of it.

Gayle went on a rant about his love life with his magical goddess wife and I said "dang you are in love with a goddess?" and he took that as "guess its time to molest a man"

This is it. Laezel stopped after one no. I told gale no many times and he keeps trying. It may be a bug or something.

I suspect it has to do with the fact sexual advances are initiated entirely by gaining approval and Gale is the easiest NPC to get approval with in the whole game.

[SnuffSaid]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

Lying was one thing, now you're literally putting words in my mouth as opposed to figuratively.

I do find it deliciously ironic though that the most righteous people tend to have no depths they won't sink to.

Oh the irony of you being upset at someone putting words in your mouth. Literally couldn't make this up.

I've not lied once, not even exaggerated. We both know this. Stop performing for an audience you simply do not have.

[Calv]

Originally posted by Hyena:

Originally posted by Calv:

No clue what you're talking about.

He showed me a magic spell and his love of Mystra, we talked at the tiefling party about his cat, and he hasn't approached me since.

Well in this playthrough I ignored him so we didn't have the Mystra talk. The only times I talked to him is when the wizard/messenger showed up and I said Gale should decide for himself if he wants to blow up.

After that, he wanted to talk to me in private. I figured it was about him blowing himself up but when I accepted to talk in private he took me to a romantic date under the stars to have his way with me.

Ok, sounds like a bug if previous conversations were skipped and a later one triggered.

[Elizadeath]

anyone with even an ounce of emotional awareness can read that gale is coming onto you during any of those scenes and avoid it. unfortunately, this would require people to have emotional awareness to not walk into. a lot of men just cant read between the lines on these things i think. kind of on them for literally choosing the options that cause these scenes to occur and then not loading immediately as soon as it crosses a line for them

[Calv]

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

Originally posted by Calv:

Oh the irony of you being upset at someone putting words in your mouth. Literally couldn't make this up.

I've not lied once, not even exaggerated. We both know this. Stop performing for an audience you simply do not have.

Do you even read what you write? Or are you just living in fantasy land?

You have repeatedly told people:
* What they think
* What they said
* Who they are
* What colour their skin is
* Whether they went to university or not
* Their age
* What their political leanings are

[SnuffSaid]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

I've not lied once, not even exaggerated. We both know this. Stop performing for an audience you simply do not have.

Do you even read what you write? Or are you just living in fantasy land?

You have repeatedly told people:
* What they think
* What they said
* Who they are
* What colour their skin is
* Whether they went to university or not
* Their age
* What their political leanings are

I think you might want to learn the difference between an assumption and a lie, that would be a start.

As I mentioned before, kind of funny nobody actually denied any of my assumptions, though. They just got angry that I made them.

[Hyena]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by Hyena:

Well in this playthrough I ignored him so we didn't have the Mystra talk. The only times I talked to him is when the wizard/messenger showed up and I said Gale should decide for himself if he wants to blow up.

After that, he wanted to talk to me in private. I figured it was about him blowing himself up but when I accepted to talk in private he took me to a romantic date under the stars to have his way with me.

Ok, sounds like a bug if previous conversations were skipped and a later one triggered.

I don't know if it's a bug but this obviously shows people can't just say "If you don't want to bang them, don't flirt with them".

[Calv]

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

Originally posted by Calv:

Do you even read what you write? Or are you just living in fantasy land?

You have repeatedly told people:
* What they think
* What they said
* Who they are
* What colour their skin is
* Whether they went to university or not
* Their age
* What their political leanings are

I think you might want to learn the difference between an assumption and a lie, that would be a start.

As I mentioned before, kind of funny nobody actually denied any of my assumptions, though. They just got angry that I made them.

I didn't accuse you of lying, I said you had put words in other people's mouths. Which these kinds of "assumptions" are exactly that. You're constantly misrepresenting other people's opinions and views, and then arguing against what you make up in your head.

And of course nobody denied your claims, why would we waste the time? You've made it clear that any attempt to disagree with you will be met with accusations of lying and you'll just go ahead and make up whatever you want.

You like to throw around the term "strawman", whilst you're constructing entire straw continents.