Slaughter the Grove, Keep Dammon Alive?

[Kartha Rolein Rinari]

I have not found a clear answer to this debacle. The truth of the matter is, I really had no interest in Halsin on my first character. She is a Drow Warlock and kind of does whatever is in her best interest--not 100% evil, but someone who would certainly choose to incorporate Minthara as a companion over an elven druid.

There must be a way to keep Dammon alive if I turn against the Grove. I have not progressed this far just yet, but I am wondering. Karlach is far superior to Lae'zel in combat, but it seems like to attain Minthara I have to loose Halsin (not a loss for me) AND forsake the quest line to repair Karlach's heart. Plus I loose Wyll. So it feels like we loose 3 companions in exchange for one companion. I don't like this trade off -at all-.

I read somewhere Karlach will leave the party too if I turn against the grove...but I also read if I kill (or get them killed) Wyll and Karlach before the Grove assault, I can resurrect them through Withers afterwards and they simply have no recollection of what transpired.

Can I just knock him out or put him to sleep? If he is not dead, but simply neutralized, he should still be alive for Act 2.

[Sang]

You could try knocking him out I guess. Under passives you can choose non lethal. Keep in mind this only applies to certain things, spells and arrows will still kill.

[Gaius]

The only way to keep both to my knowlege i outright ignoring he whole chain and moving ahead. I'm not 100% sure about Dammon surviving tough.

Karlach isn't that superior to Lae'Zel in the end of the day. Both are amazing frontliners, and Karlach coin shenanigans doesn't translate in relevant damage in higher levels.

[Kartha Rolein Rinari]

Originally posted by Sang:

You could try knocking him out I guess. Under passives you can choose non lethal. Keep in mind this only applies to certain things, spells and arrows will still kill.

Right! I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this so far and it worked? I'm at the goblin camp and I'm honestly basing my decision going forward on whether I can keep Dammon alive or not. I don't want to sacrifice Karlach.

[Kartha Rolein Rinari]

Originally posted by Gaius:

The only way to keep both to my knowlege i outright ignoring he whole chain and moving ahead. I'm not 100% sure about Dammon surviving tough.

Karlach isn't that superior to Lae'Zel in the end of the day. Both are amazing frontliners, and Karlach coin shenanigans doesn't translate in relevant damage in higher levels.

So if I simply ignore the Grove vs. Gobbo's questline and move on to Act 2, Dammon lives and I get Minthara?

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Originally posted by Kartha Rolein Rinari:

Originally posted by Sang:

You could try knocking him out I guess. Under passives you can choose non lethal. Keep in mind this only applies to certain things, spells and arrows will still kill.

Right! I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this so far and it worked? I'm at the goblin camp and I'm honestly basing my decision going forward on whether I can keep Dammon alive or not. I don't want to sacrifice Karlach.

From what I've been reading, while non lethal doesn't kill them if you do it right. Fights will end if things are knocked out because they're classed as 'dead' by the game. I don't think knocking him out will be a solution.

You can always save beforehand, try it. Go ahead with your plan and see what happens, then you'll know for certain.

[alex010300]

Why would Dammon even want to work with you after you slaughter his kin. Just slaughter the Goblins instead.

[Kartha Rolein Rinari]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Why would Dammon even want to work with you after you slaughter his kin. Just slaughter the Goblins instead.

Lol, slaughtering the Goblins turns Minthara against me...and for a "good" character, that is fine...but I am playing an evil leaning Drow.

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Originally posted by Kartha Rolein Rinari:

Originally posted by alex010300:

Why would Dammon even want to work with you after you slaughter his kin. Just slaughter the Goblins instead.

Lol, slaughtering the Goblins turns Minthara against me...and for a "good" character, that is fine...but I am playing an evil leaning Drow.

Then you may just have to bite the bullet and actually accept the evil consequences and lose Karlach and Wyll. Slaughter the grove if you really want Minthara.

[Kartha Rolein Rinari]

Originally posted by Seri:

Originally posted by Kartha Rolein Rinari:

Lol, slaughtering the Goblins turns Minthara against me...and for a "good" character, that is fine...but I am playing an evil leaning Drow.

Then you may just have to bite the bullet and actually accept the evil consequences and lose Karlach and Wyll. Slaughter the grove if you really want Minthara.

Yeah, maybe...just seems a really heavy price to pay, loosing three companions to gain one.

[RikaMasayume]

Dammon being the main part of Kannachs Quuestline is one of the dumbest decisions Larian could have made.

Act 1:
steal from him, he can bug out and never talk to you again.

The druids kick out the tieflings, who fight back and all the tieflings die.

If you piss off Mol (he can also run into an I hate you bug) the Tieflings will become Argro.

You help the goblins

Oh, and the stupid, the trange cow, if she dies, you can also forget about Kanach's quest.

Act2:
If you kill the light guardian, the guy dies too.

If you kill the cow there, the same as in act 1.

If you let choose Shadowheart Shar or you can't persuade her, he's gone too.

[Kartha Rolein Rinari]

Originally posted by RikaMasayume:

Dammon being the main part of Kannachs Quuestline is one of the dumbest decisions Larian could have made.

Act 1:
steal from him, he can bug out and never talk to you again.

The druids kick out the tieflings, who fight back and all the tieflings die.

If you piss off Mol (he can also run into an I hate you bug) the Tieflings will become Argro.

You help the goblins

Oh, and the stupid, the trange cow, if she dies, you can also forget about Kanach's quest.

Act2:
If you kill the light guardian, the guy dies too.

If you kill the cow there, the same as in act 1.

If you let choose Shadowheart Shar or you can't persuade her, he's gone too.

Ok so it sounds like this aspect of the game is super bugged, then.

[wei270]

knocking him out doesn't work.

[BurningFalcon]

It would be great if there would be a way to send the tieflings away while the goblins attack, so we only fight the grove, but without sending them to their doom

[Stratacus]

Hey!!! I just did this, took some time. Ok so I have 3 party members. My main I took to Kagha. The other two I stationed near Dammon. So when the fight starts the druids run out to attack the tieflings. I had to wait till they were in battle and then jump in and try to take the brunt of the 3 fronts with my characters. I had to basically leave the kagha fight in limbo while I finished up in the town. It worked, after 3 attempts. Like, you can't summon the ogres cause then they kill everyone, and you can't attack them before they attack the tieflings or you won't have any help. Fun, can't wait to see what happens. Keeping him alive was hard! He would be just dead somewhere in the town. The fight continues even if you are paused inside the chamber, they fight.

[Stratacus]

On a side note I finally managed to keep that drow alive with the Beholder. My guy isn't a hero, just knows people who owe you favors are worth keeping around. :P