Half the city is missing cause they cut it...

[Fast]

This appears to be why many quests seem to have no conclusion and just complete. It seems many quests you get in Rivington and baldurs gate lower city were meant to continue onto the upper city according to data mining buy they just chopped it all out and sold it as is.
It also seems that there were a ton of set pieces and events in the upper city which fleshed out the ending a bit more.

[Fast]

Originally posted by Ponky:

Originally posted by Fast:

Did you know Gortash was supposed to be fought in the upper city but they dumped himat the top of wyrm Castle when they cut it out he has Co ordinates listed for upper city and a bunch of dialogue that you don't get to access

Yes the entire upper city was removed from the game this was confirmed during the PC gamer interview where Sven specifically spoke about the upper city as a large part and even spoke to its size and relevance to the story of the game not two weeks before launch. They also claimed it was seamless. It is not.

https://www.pcgamer.com/baldurs-gate-3-dev-diary-city-reveal-pcgs-2023/

Honestly I didn't think about this until now. Why would Gortash be hanging out at Wyrm Rock when he should be getting his coronation in the upper city,,,,getting the title of Archduke at the random gate right next to the outside city of Rivington, farther out than the Lower City, how does that make sense?

it doesnt and it wasnt going to be like that.
There is hundreds of event notes, quest lines, dialogues and item classes linked to the upper city, that literally just got cropped out of the game. They dumped whatever they could into low city and gave up.

[Eddie]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by Ponky:

Honestly I didn't think about this until now. Why would Gortash be hanging out at Wyrm Rock when he should be getting his coronation in the upper city,,,,getting the title of Archduke at the random gate right next to the outside city of Rivington, farther out than the Lower City, how does that make sense?

it doesnt and it wasnt going to be like that.
There is hundreds of event notes, quest lines, dialogues and item classes linked to the upper city, that literally just got cropped out of the game. They dumped whatever they could into low city and gave up.

I'm honestly stunned at myself for not thinking about this during my first playthrough, There is NO reason his coronation should be so far off from being in a palace area what the hell

[Shepherd]

This game is a scam. The quality that went into act 1 is not present in act 2 or 3.

[Fast]

Originally posted by Ponky:

Originally posted by Fast:

it doesnt and it wasnt going to be like that.
There is hundreds of event notes, quest lines, dialogues and item classes linked to the upper city, that literally just got cropped out of the game. They dumped whatever they could into low city and gave up.

I'm honestly stunned at myself for not thinking about this during my first playthrough, There is NO reason his coronation should be so far off from being in a palace area what the hell

Act 3 by the looks of it was supposed to be another 20-40 hours of game, and they just sliced it out. If you compare the amount of stuff in the text file to act 1. its about as big

[Dr. Sinclair]

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by ᛊᚨᛁᛚᛟᚱ ᛗᛟᛟᚾ:

It missing doesn't mean it's missing? Come on now man

man imagine missing what i said.

things get removed, that doesn't mean they are missing, it means they were never meant to be given to you.

if your not meant to have something, then is it missing? obviously not.

cut content is just that: cut, it is not meant to be included in the release version, and as such: isn't missing for release.

games undergo changes during development, some things get added and other things get removed, yet not everything gets removed from the files, for one reason or another.

so as i said: using datamined information to judge is a faulty method.

so... them bragging about upper city a month before release, and not delivering, is okay? with 0 statements about why they didnt deliver?

[Call Sign: Raven]

Originally posted by Shepherd:

This game is a scam. The quality that went into act 1 is not present in act 2 or 3.

Lord Enver Gortash. Orin.

[Eddie]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by Ponky:

I'm honestly stunned at myself for not thinking about this during my first playthrough, There is NO reason his coronation should be so far off from being in a palace area what the hell

Act 3 by the looks of it was supposed to be another 20-40 hours of game, and they just sliced it out. If you compare the amount of stuff in the text file to act 1. its about as big

Honestly I think your the first person to bring this up, and that's really surprising to me as I agree the Upper City was def cut, but not for this reason! But wow, this really changed my view on a lot. They really had a king pretty much be crowned in a security gate next to a poor small city

[Dr. Sinclair]

Originally posted by Ponky:

Originally posted by Fast:

Act 3 by the looks of it was supposed to be another 20-40 hours of game, and they just sliced it out. If you compare the amount of stuff in the text file to act 1. its about as big

Honestly I think your the first person to bring this up, and that's really surprising to me as I agree the Upper City was def cut, but not for this reason! But wow, this really changed my view on a lot. They really had a king pretty much be crowned in a security gate next to a poor small city

people have been bringing this up for a while now, it just gets more common as people actually finish the game

[Fast]

Originally posted by Shepherd:

This game is a scam. The quality that went into act 1 is not present in act 2 or 3.

honestly, one might argue it is in fact a scam, they frontloaded the game for good reviews and positive sentiment whilst deliberately rushing act 2 and act 3 whilst having had over a million copies sold during early access.

The game is massively buggy, unfinished and missing core parts of the game that they specifically commercially marketed.

[Caldrin]

Originally posted by Fast:

This appears to be why many quests seem to have no conclusion and just complete. It seems many quests you get in Rivington and baldurs gate lower city were meant to continue onto the upper city according to data mining buy they just chopped it all out and sold it as is.
It also seems that there were a ton of set pieces and events in the upper city which fleshed out the ending a bit more.

Like movies things get cut out, some things get added in that never existed before as well..
They might have thought ah yeah this quest line is going to be great but when play tested found out it sucked so removed it..

They may have just ran out of development time so were unable to finish it on time so had to cut it out..

There are any number of reasons content does not make it into the final game..

Its not a new thing in the industry and this wont be the last game to cut content before release..

All I know is that I am having a blast and should hopefully finish off act 3 this weekend so I can start again with a different character..

[Fast]

Originally posted by Ponky:

Originally posted by Fast:

Act 3 by the looks of it was supposed to be another 20-40 hours of game, and they just sliced it out. If you compare the amount of stuff in the text file to act 1. its about as big

Honestly I think your the first person to bring this up, and that's really surprising to me as I agree the Upper City was def cut, but not for this reason! But wow, this really changed my view on a lot. They really had a king pretty much be crowned in a security gate next to a poor small city

There is an absolute massive amount of other important "looking" events as well, like minsc was supposed to have an entire plot line in upper city, and jaheira and the girl were supposed to have further plot stuff.
The elder brain ending place was not in the undercity either, it was an event started in uppercity, seems like they just added that peninsula on with a boat, last minute and dumped you in upper city.

[Neks]

sad. hoping it's going back as dlc.

[GodMan]

The city is big enough as it is. Adding upper city only would bloat the content and make exploration miserable.

[Eddie]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:

Originally posted by Ponky:

Honestly I think your the first person to bring this up, and that's really surprising to me as I agree the Upper City was def cut, but not for this reason! But wow, this really changed my view on a lot. They really had a king pretty much be crowned in a security gate next to a poor small city

people have been bringing this up for a while now, it just gets more common as people actually finish the game

Absolutely, I agree that the Upper City was cut, but the whole Gortash coronation thing punched me in the face!

[Eddie]

Originally posted by GodMan:

The city is big enough as it is. Adding upper city only would bloat the content and make exploration miserable.

its only bloated if done wrong, which apparently it was as it was just taken out