Does Intelligence 8 mean negative intelligence modifier dialogue options?

[Gougourougou]

I'm thinking of making a devotion paladin and I'm thinking of putting my " 8 " ability score on Intelligence. Will I have negative intelligence modifiers dialogue options because of that? I'm not talking about Intelligence checks, only about the other dialogue options.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

It fluctuates.
Thus the 8-10. 8 in Int does not mean you are dumb.. (some TT players would even fully disregard it as a indicator on how smart their character is and instead look at it pure skill check based)

I guess it depends on whom you ask.
Some would even argue 11 is avarage..

The absolute average commoner npc, who is the epitome of average has +0 in everything. 10 is average because it is +0 and doesn't influence your rolls., so is 11.
With 8 or 9 you have a -1 to your rolls etc. you are below average.
with a +0 you have a 50/50 chance at a dc10 skillcheck. with a -1 you will have less chance...It's really not that hard...

My point is that nobody have 10 on every stat.. so avarage ends up closer to 8-10 in most cases, with an 11.. 8 is perfectly well within the avarage person. (because the avarage person is not avarage in all aspects and often still don´t excel in anything)

I understand your point statswise, but from a realistic avarage farmer that really is not the case. Hence my argument on "spectrum"

[Roaming Zombie]

Sorry, no. This is not Fallout :(

[Friends with Benedicts]

yep, dumb dialogue options should be under 6 or less intelligence.

[kosten07]

Yet another reason why Planescape: Torment is the best DnD game ever.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

The absolute average commoner npc, who is the epitome of average has +0 in everything. 10 is average because it is +0 and doesn't influence your rolls., so is 11.
With 8 or 9 you have a -1 to your rolls etc. you are below average.
with a +0 you have a 50/50 chance at a dc10 skillcheck. with a -1 you will have less chance...It's really not that hard...

My point is that nobody have 10 on every stat.. so avarage ends up closer to 8-10 in most cases, with an 11.. 8 is perfectly well within the avarage person. (because the avarage person is not avarage in all aspects and often still don´t excel in anything)

I understand your point statswise, but from a realistic avarage farmer that really is not the case. Hence my argument on "spectrum"

I literally linked an npcs that does have 10 in every stats. And that npc is generally used for every common man in dnd ever. From the common unnamed farmer, the common unnamed baker, the common unnamed marketcryer etc. The commoner npc represents thos common unnamed people...that's why the npc is called commoner.

[AsianGirlLover]

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[cire87]

be funny to make a barbarian with as low intelligence as possible

[thufirhawat333]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by thufirhawat333:

Unfortunately, no, you can't pull an Outer Worlds dumb character here.

Yeah, the closest you can get to that is play as a barbarian and pick those options whenever you can.

I would welcome it though, it adds a unique flavour. But relatively few RPGs have actual reactivity to really low attributes. Disco Elysium was one of them. I love when failure states add flavour instead of just failing. But well, we already have more permutations than usual, AAA studios already call this an anomaly out of fear that the bars will be raised, so no complaints from my end.

[cire87]

barbarian dark urge will be hilarious

[Eckoh]

its a dump stat for many, but no you do not get a "stupid" character

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

My point is that nobody have 10 on every stat.. so avarage ends up closer to 8-10 in most cases, with an 11.. 8 is perfectly well within the avarage person. (because the avarage person is not avarage in all aspects and often still don´t excel in anything)

I understand your point statswise, but from a realistic avarage farmer that really is not the case. Hence my argument on "spectrum"

I literally linked an npcs that does have 10 in every stats. And that npc is generally used for every common man in dnd ever. From the common unnamed farmer, the common unnamed baker, the common unnamed marketcryer etc. The commoner npc represents thos common unnamed people...that's why the npc is called commoner.

I don´t use that when I DM. Then again.. I reckon my games are abit more homebrew.
10 in every stats is too generic and weird in my opinion.

[cire87]

also 8 int doesnt make u super dumb just below average

[Tempest]

Generic would be the point of being average in every stat. That is, 10.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

I literally linked an npcs that does have 10 in every stats. And that npc is generally used for every common man in dnd ever. From the common unnamed farmer, the common unnamed baker, the common unnamed marketcryer etc. The commoner npc represents thos common unnamed people...that's why the npc is called commoner.

I don´t use that when I DM. Then again.. I reckon my games are abit more homebrew.
10 in every stats is too generic and weird in my opinion.

being generic is exactly the point of that npc...so we have a baseline...xD

[cire87]

i assume zero is a plant or a rock so anything going above that has some form of intelligence not sure how high it has to be , to be able to speak properly