Racial Bonuses Question

[BlindErasmus]

Does anyone know if the full game release you can choose between race determined bonuses or player chosen bonuses? The player chosen bonuses system just feels wrong in context to the point of races.

[GrimAtrament]

I believe they said that release is going to be using Tasha system where each race get 2+1 stat points to assign as the player like but still keep the racial features. Which would be for the best.

[BlindErasmus]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

I believe they said that release is going to be using Tasha system where each race get 2+1 stat points to assign as the player like but still keep the racial features. Which would be for the best.

I don’t really like the player assigned +2 +1
:(

[Diomedes]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

I believe they said that release is going to be using Tasha system where each race get 2+1 stat points to assign as the player like but still keep the racial features. Which would be for the best.

humans better get a big feature, the only thing they had going for them was the +1 to all stats, which allowed for good spreads for MAD classes (like monk) and multiclassing.

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

I believe they said that release is going to be using Tasha system where each race get 2+1 stat points to assign as the player like but still keep the racial features. Which would be for the best.

I don’t really like the player assigned +2 +1
:(

i like it much more over the stupidly restrictive race assigned stats which prohibited creativity.

Originally posted by Diomedes:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

I believe they said that release is going to be using Tasha system where each race get 2+1 stat points to assign as the player like but still keep the racial features. Which would be for the best.

humans better get a big feature, the only thing they had going for them was the +1 to all stats, which allowed for good spreads for MAD classes (like monk) and multiclassing.

human variant literally exists, my dude, and has one of the best racial features in DnD giving you a free feat at level 1.

[BlindErasmus]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

I don’t really like the player assigned +2 +1
:(

i like it much more over the stupidly restrictive race assigned stats which prohibited creativity.

Originally posted by Diomedes:

humans better get a big feature, the only thing they had going for them was the +1 to all stats, which allowed for good spreads for MAD classes (like monk) and multiclassing.

human variant literally exists, my dude, and has one of the best racial features in DnD giving you a free feat at level 1.

That could also be said about limitations too as you want to solve a problem by creating a solution or “being creative”
maybe i just don’t like change

[trippsyc]

This isn't exclusively just a Larian choice, if you have been reading the upcoming revision changes to 5E coming 2024. Wizards of the Coast removing, in part, ability scores from races and even doing away with half-races in favor of species choices with options.

[BlindErasmus]

Originally posted by trippsyc:

This isn't exclusively just a Larian choice, if you have been reading the upcoming revision changes to 5E coming 2024. Wizards of the Coast removing, in part, ability scores from races and even doing away with half-races in favor of species choices with options.

I don’t consider 1 dnd to be a real edition, i’ve been looking into different systems probably going to go to b/xdnd or Adnd, so i haven’t really heard what they are doing over there, but anyways do you know the answer to my original question 😂

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

i like it much more over the stupidly restrictive race assigned stats which prohibited creativity.




human variant literally exists, my dude, and has one of the best racial features in DnD giving you a free feat at level 1.

That could also be said about limitations too as you want to solve a problem by creating a solution or “being creative”
maybe i just don’t like change :er_sweat:

sounds like you just don't like change. 2+ 1+ allows for more creative decisions without worrying about stat spread. you can be a wizard orc without worrying about the negative modifyer they use to give orcs in int for some stupid reason. you can also be a tefling or elf barbarian without worrying about being worse than other races at it. it allows for much more creative decisions then i pick orc barbarian because it has + to strength and - in int. or i pick tefling warlock because + to charisma.
it allows races to be used as an actual narrative and creative tool rather than a stat stick.

[BlindErasmus]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

That could also be said about limitations too as you want to solve a problem by creating a solution or “being creative”
maybe i just don’t like change

sounds like you just don't like change. 2+ 1+ allows for more creative decisions without worrying about stat spread. you can be a wizard orc without worrying about the negative modifyer they use to give orcs in int for some stupid reason. you can also be a tefling or elf barbarian without worrying about being worse than other races at it. it allows for much more creative decisions then i pick orc barbarian because it has + to strength and - in int. or i pick tefling warlock because + to charisma.
it allows races to be used as an actual narrative and creative tool rather than a stat stick.

yup pretty much, but do you know the answer to my original question

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

That could also be said about limitations too as you want to solve a problem by creating a solution or “being creative”
maybe i just don’t like change :er_sweat:

sounds like you just don't like change. 2+ 1+ allows for more creative decisions without worrying about stat spread. you can be a wizard orc without worrying about the negative modifyer they use to give orcs in int for some stupid reason. you can also be a tefling or elf barbarian without worrying about being worse than other races at it. it allows for much more creative decisions then i pick orc barbarian because it has + to strength and - in int. or i pick tefling warlock because + to charisma.
it allows races to be used as an actual narrative and creative tool rather than a stat stick.

Which really means that half-orcs are now superior to every other race objectively speaking.

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

sounds like you just don't like change. 2+ 1+ allows for more creative decisions without worrying about stat spread. you can be a wizard orc without worrying about the negative modifyer they use to give orcs in int for some stupid reason. you can also be a tefling or elf barbarian without worrying about being worse than other races at it. it allows for much more creative decisions then i pick orc barbarian because it has + to strength and - in int. or i pick tefling warlock because + to charisma.
it allows races to be used as an actual narrative and creative tool rather than a stat stick.

yup pretty much, but do you know the answer to my original question

DnD is a game that lives and dies on it's creativity so that should be your answer.

[BlindErasmus]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

yup pretty much, but do you know the answer to my original question

DnD is a game that lives and dies on it's creativity so that should be your answer.

ok? but can i pick between the systems? i’ve heard larian had different systems for playing dos2 and i’m wondering if that will be available to switch between the systems for character creation

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

DnD is a game that lives and dies on it's creativity so that should be your answer.

ok? but can i pick between the systems? i’ve heard larian had different systems for playing dos2 and i’m wondering if that will be available to switch between the systems for character creation

probably not since this appears to be a mandate set by WoTC who get the final say in this since it's their license.

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

sounds like you just don't like change. 2+ 1+ allows for more creative decisions without worrying about stat spread. you can be a wizard orc without worrying about the negative modifyer they use to give orcs in int for some stupid reason. you can also be a tefling or elf barbarian without worrying about being worse than other races at it. it allows for much more creative decisions then i pick orc barbarian because it has + to strength and - in int. or i pick tefling warlock because + to charisma.
it allows races to be used as an actual narrative and creative tool rather than a stat stick.

Which really means that half-orcs are now superior to every other race objectively speaking.

they don't get a free feat at level 1, they also don't breath elements are have resistance to said elements. they don't have the ability to turn nat 1's into 20s.
they don't get
the ability to cause fear on a charisma roll. etc.
you can't fly

Relentless Endurance is easily over powered by anyone with more then one attack a turn. i.e every single character at level 3 who has a bonus action. you only get 1 hit point back.

Savage Attacks requries you to roll a 20 good luck with that when you get disadvantage.
also you can't spec into everything and expect your character to be a jack of all trades.
you are missing the trees for the forest if you think that.

all +2 and +1 does is make it so that you can play a race with any class and not worry about your stats while roleplaying what you want.

[Lesbon]

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

DnD is a game that lives and dies on it's creativity so that should be your answer.

ok? but can i pick between the systems? i’ve heard larian had different systems for playing dos2 and i’m wondering if that will be available to switch between the systems for character creation

No you can't, but you can put the bonus to respect the old system yourself if that is something you really want.

[Occursus]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by BlindErasmus:

I don’t really like the player assigned +2 +1
:(

i like it much more over the stupidly restrictive race assigned stats which prohibited creativity.

Originally posted by Diomedes:

humans better get a big feature, the only thing they had going for them was the +1 to all stats, which allowed for good spreads for MAD classes (like monk) and multiclassing.

human variant literally exists, my dude, and has one of the best racial features in DnD giving you a free feat at level 1.

I mean, creativity only exists in the context of limitations. Removing the limitations do not make it more creative ; it only gives you the cosmetics you want and nothing else.