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Xequilibrium Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:48am
Ranger really as weak as they say?
Is the ranger really as weak as people say? I was planning to main one but now im in doubt.

Also can rangers dual wield swords?
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cernodan Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:50am 
I don't know. I don't play weak classes.
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Swimfan Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:53am 
Every class is viable somehow. Even when they called Wizard a bad Sorcerer, I ran with that class just fine.
Also: Ranger gets Gloomstalker subclass in 1.0 which (from what I have heard) has to slap hard. That being said: They even balanced the monk to feel good (which is supposed to be the most underwhelming class in 5e).
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Kite8D Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:54am 
Like... Play what you want, man? It's not a pvp game where min-maxing is needed. You can play the game through with any class.
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Vixziค็็็็็n Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:54am 
No they aren't as weak in BG3 because they homebrewed the Ranger. One of the positive things I was happy to see as I tend to not favor homebrewing but there are definitely some things that are an improvement to the core rules.

Yes they can dual wield.... but then so can pretty much any fighter or rogue with the right feats.
Last edited by Vixziค็็็็็n; Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:54am
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RakiaTime Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:55am 
who cares? if you wanna play a ranger play a ranger
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wtiger27 Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:55am 
As people say? Lol. Na. They can be a really strong class. As ether style. I have did most of Act 1 EA as a Beast Master and Hunter. Both played very well and did great damage.
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Recjawjind Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:55am 
Rangers do have a bit of an identity crisis in 5e, that much is true.

How good rangers are in this game, with larian having homebrewed so much, isn't fully known yet.
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Malaficus Shaikan Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:55am 
Ranger being weak is a meme.
I seen ranger slaughter targets in seconds.
They are only weak because they dont have the area of effect spellcasters have.
Honestly it is like saying fighter is weak for not having an area of effect spell.
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Bisexual Offender Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:55am 
Ranger is pretty good in BG3 and is buffed compared to it`s TTRPG self.
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Whut Jul 21, 2023 @ 6:57am 
Mid maxing in a single player game is like thinking there are more then two genders. Makes no sense
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Recjawjind Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Ranger being weak is a meme.
I seen ranger slaughter targets in seconds.
They are only weak because they dont have the area of effect spellcasters have.
Honestly it is like saying fighter is weak for not having an area of effect spell.
Rangers are considered weak in PNP 5e because they
1: Are worse at martial combat than fighters (this includes bows)
2: Have a lot of features that are awkward, situational and do very little (favored enemy for example)
3: Have an extremely limited spell list that doesn't offset their gap in martial ability to fighters

They just have an identity crisis.
Last edited by Recjawjind; Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:00am
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Bisexual Offender Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Ranger being weak is a meme.
I seen ranger slaughter targets in seconds.
They are only weak because they dont have the area of effect spellcasters have.
Honestly it is like saying fighter is weak for not having an area of effect spell.
Ranger being weak is more of a result of 5e PHB being stupid. Both ranger subclasses (being Hunter and Beast Master) were either mediocre or outright bad.
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boo_guy Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:03am 
I've never had too much of a problem with it.

My current run is ranger, wyll, gale, and shadowheart.
I plan on bringing out Lae-lae when we go to see her Gith friends but otherwise I haven't had much of an issue with any of the fights.

Take colossus slayer. Make them a bounty hunter (for ea, gloomstocker for full game)
And have a finesse weapon for when you can't use your bow. Use ensnaring strike and Hunter's mark.
Last edited by boo_guy; Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:07am
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Recjawjind Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by Bezyn:
Ranger being weak is more of a result of 5e PHB being stupid. Both ranger subclasses (being Hunter and Beast Master) were either mediocre or outright bad.
To be fair hunter is one of the better ranger subclasses. It actually does stuff.
Colossus Slayer is pretty good
Multiattack Defense is very good
Volley is decent
Evasion and Uncanny dodge both are good

PHB beastmaster is a meme though. Gets a bit better with primal companion but still not that good.
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Swimfan Jul 21, 2023 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:
Ranger being weak is a meme.
I seen ranger slaughter targets in seconds.
They are only weak because they dont have the area of effect spellcasters have.
Honestly it is like saying fighter is weak for not having an area of effect spell.
Rangers are considered weak in PNP 5e because they
1: Are worse at martial combat than fighters (this includes bows)
2: Have a lot of features that are awkward, situational and do very little (favored enemy for example)
3: Have an extremely limited spell list that doesn't offset their gap in martial ability to fighters

They just have an identity crisis.

Well I'm gonna be honest: I have never thought about playing a Ranger myself because (and please don't judge these as arguments, it's just how I felt it):
a) If I want to use a bow, why not play Rogue and make use of powerful sneak attacks?
b) Why use something like a summoned animal if you can play druid and become a bigger version of that animal?

As you said: Identity crisis ^^
But I bet that Larian will make the class at least useable and fun.
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