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Dabagonsmith Jul 21, 2023 @ 2:34am
Thoughts on moon druid.
I'm without a doubt going moon druid for my first play-through. I know owlbear has been confirmed and displacer beast has been shown as well, but the forms do feel like they get weaker as the game goes on. I believe some of the rangers pets are straight up stronger than the druid's wildshape which doesn't seem right to me. Does anyone think this will be resolved in the full release or is druid going to have spikes of being very strong then getting weaker before getting a new form?

Also I hope owlbear or some other strong forms are moon exclusive since land gets exclusive spells and spore gets exclusive abilites. Doesn't seem right if the strongest wildshapes are shared with the other subclasses.
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Bisexual Offender Jul 21, 2023 @ 2:37am 
Moon druid does not get proper power scale progressions like most other classes, instead they get power spikes. On level 3 and 4 Moon circle is incredibly powerfull, then falls off for level 5 and then power spikes again.
We will need to see all forms available to moon druid on release to fully judge him.
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Aranador Jul 21, 2023 @ 2:39am 
In 5th ed, a druid is a lot more than just a wild shape. One of the most powerful classes, stronger than most at their peak when the druid is at a low. Any time an enemy does manage to chew through all your wild shape HP, all they've really done is piss off a full spell caster with a battery of powerful offensive spells. You will be fine.
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Angarvin Jul 21, 2023 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Dabagonsmith:
Also I hope owlbear or some other strong forms are moon exclusive
owlbear is a monstrosity, not a beast. thus it should not be available to druids.
swen did mention dinos tho.
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Recjawjind Jul 21, 2023 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by Angarvin:
owlbear is a monstrosity, not a beast. thus it should not be available to druids.
swen did mention dinos tho.
Owlbear is confirmed as a wildshape

RAW, they indeed wouldn't work, but larian has the right to homebrew as they please :>
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Angarvin Jul 21, 2023 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Originally posted by Angarvin:
owlbear is a monstrosity, not a beast. thus it should not be available to druids.
swen did mention dinos tho.
Owlbear is confirmed as a wildshape

RAW, they indeed wouldn't work, but larian has the right to homebrew as they please :>
could you provide a source to that? i'd like a read.
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nvm. found it. thought it was some kind of an interview
Last edited by Angarvin; Jul 21, 2023 @ 8:43am
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[Heretic]Rivga Jul 21, 2023 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Bezyn:
Moon druid does not get proper power scale progressions like most other classes, instead they get power spikes. On level 3 and 4 Moon circle is incredibly powerfull, then falls off for level 5 and then power spikes again.
We will need to see all forms available to moon druid on release to fully judge him.

Larian has reduced the early level power of the wildshapes, I wonder if they have done some work on balancing them for later game too.

A lot of the wild shape utility is lost in a video game, so I'd guess they have balanced this by boosting combat power at later levels.

No evidence though pure guess work.
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MeldinX2 Jul 21, 2023 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by Dabagonsmith:
I'm without a doubt going moon druid for my first play-through. I know owlbear has been confirmed and displacer beast has been shown as well, but the forms do feel like they get weaker as the game goes on. I believe some of the rangers pets are straight up stronger than the druid's wildshape which doesn't seem right to me. Does anyone think this will be resolved in the full release or is druid going to have spikes of being very strong then getting weaker before getting a new form?

Also I hope owlbear or some other strong forms are moon exclusive since land gets exclusive spells and spore gets exclusive abilites. Doesn't seem right if the strongest wildshapes are shared with the other subclasses.

Moondruid is fine. The Wildshape itself will spike in power as people said and then fall off. Until next spike. This said they are never useless. There are many sitations both inside and outside combat that certain forms will be useful. And don't forget you are also a spellcaster. You don't need to be in wildshape 100% of the time.
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Dabagonsmith Jul 21, 2023 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by MeldinX2:
Originally posted by Dabagonsmith:
I'm without a doubt going moon druid for my first play-through. I know owlbear has been confirmed and displacer beast has been shown as well, but the forms do feel like they get weaker as the game goes on. I believe some of the rangers pets are straight up stronger than the druid's wildshape which doesn't seem right to me. Does anyone think this will be resolved in the full release or is druid going to have spikes of being very strong then getting weaker before getting a new form?

Also I hope owlbear or some other strong forms are moon exclusive since land gets exclusive spells and spore gets exclusive abilites. Doesn't seem right if the strongest wildshapes are shared with the other subclasses.

Moondruid is fine. The Wildshape itself will spike in power as people said and then fall off. Until next spike. This said they are never useless. There are many sitations both inside and outside combat that certain forms will be useful. And don't forget you are also a spellcaster. You don't need to be in wildshape 100% of the time.
Seems to be what everyone is saying. Power spikes instead of a steady curve seems fun. Plus their overall kit is just extremely flexible so it seems like druid will always have something useful to do even during their weaker levels.
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Invisible Jul 21, 2023 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Originally posted by Angarvin:
owlbear is a monstrosity, not a beast. thus it should not be available to druids.
swen did mention dinos tho.
Owlbear is confirmed as a wildshape

RAW, they indeed wouldn't work, but larian has the right to homebrew as they please :>

No, no it isnt,
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Dabagonsmith Jul 21, 2023 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by Robotron:
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Owlbear is confirmed as a wildshape

RAW, they indeed wouldn't work, but larian has the right to homebrew as they please :>

No, no it isnt,
They did confirm owlbear on twitter, specifically level 6.
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Invisible Jul 21, 2023 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Dabagonsmith:
Originally posted by Robotron:

No, no it isnt,
They did confirm owlbear on twitter, specifically level 6.

Link it.
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Dabagonsmith Jul 21, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Robotron:
Originally posted by Dabagonsmith:
They did confirm owlbear on twitter, specifically level 6.

Link it.
https://twitter.com/larianstudios/status/1641833148026593282?lang=en
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Harukage Jul 21, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Druid turning into an owlbear is literally in one of the trailers. Not to mention the CONFIRMATION that was given after it.
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Dabagonsmith Jul 21, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Harukage:
Druid turning into an owlbear is literally in one of the trailers. Not to mention the CONFIRMATION that was given after it.
Also this. displacer beast was shown and dinos were also mentioned in recent videos.
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Malaficus Shaikan Jul 21, 2023 @ 11:09am 
If it is like the table top it is the most self reliant class in the game.
A class that needs very little gear if any.
It is a tier 1 class.
Moon druid get better wildshapes and use wildshape as a bonus action rather then an action.
They are great at first and remain good.
From my understand it goes like this:
Druids are master of the early game then balance out.
Wizards are master of the late game but have early game hell.
Clerics are gods at every level.
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