Barbarian/Monk

[Calandir]

Think it will work well? I'm thinking of making pure rage beast who just punches everything to death. Viable?

[BrutalHonestGaming]

Anything is viable in this game 😆 I plan on making an Orc/Monk because they're always portrayed as Barbarians so I thought I would try something different 😝

[Warhead64]

Maybe, we dont yet know enough about the Monk in BG3 if no other reason because BG3 is pretty different from source material. Personally I am kicking around Rogue/Monk

[Runic Tunic]

It's traditionally very MAD and requires very specific builds to work well, leaving little wiggle room for deviation. That being said, it can work. Biggest issue is AC, because most viable builds require you to let your dexterity suffer, which makes you very squishy.

That may not be as much of a problem for BG3, as there's going to be a lot of gear that can give you dex, and supposedly monk weapons will be anything you're proficient in now, which makes polearms, battle axes, and warhammers actual options for monk/barb.

[medicinezombie]

There's some more detailed info in a thread called "BARBONKS THE MONARIAN" on this idea

Comments above are all correct, viable but does take some min-maxing to be at a good power level. Some things don't pair very well or stack but it's possible to overcome that

[Farsha]

Barbarian / Rage is not really good on Dex characters.

Rage:
In battle, you fight with primal ferocity. On your turn, you can enter a rage as a bonus action.
While raging, you gain the following benefits if you aren't wearing heavy armor:
- You have advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws.
- When you make a melee weapon attack using Strength, you gain a +2 bonus to the damage roll. This bonus increases as you level.

And if you go Str your Ac will be pretty low, it might work but you will get hit a lot.
Not sure how to optimize Str, Con, Dex and Wis for such build.

Monk is just not ment for Str and Barb for Dex.

Monk would be better with fighter, ranger or rogue.
Barb with fighter and you can smite while raging, so Paladin could kinda work too. Seen some builds with raging wildshape druid, but it's more a meme than a good build.

[BrutalHonestGaming]

Originally posted by Warhead64:

Maybe, we don't yet know enough about the Monk in BG3 if no other reason because BG3 is pretty different from the source material. I am kicking around Rogue/Monk

I pretty much know everything to know about the Monk Class
because I read and researched it 😂 I won't be answering any of your questions. Because I don't "feed people" on forums 😆

[medicinezombie]

Originally posted by Farsha:

Barbarian / Rage is not really good on Dex characters.

Rage:
In battle, you fight with primal ferocity. On your turn, you can enter a rage as a bonus action.
While raging, you gain the following benefits if you aren't wearing heavy armor:
- You have advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws.
- When you make a melee weapon attack using Strength, you gain a +2 bonus to the damage roll. This bonus increases as you level.

And if you GO Str your Ac will be pretty low, it might work but you will get hit a lot.
Not sure how to optimize Str, Con, Dex and Wis for such build.

Monk is just not ment for Str and Barb for Dex.

Monk would be better with fighter, ranger or rogue.
Barb with fighter and you can smite while raging, so Paladin could kinda work too. Seen some builds with raging wildshape druid, but it's more a meme than a good build.

This is all correct, def not easy to put the build together.

But I think it could be viable in game - and in some ways, having MAD is a good thing for late game if there are enough items/buffs to actually get this PCs stats all high

Especially if the Belt of Giant Strength/Amulet of CON 19 from 5e exist in this game - then you collect one of those and go respecc the base stat down to an 8, move the points into DEX

For sure some rough edges - lose BA to rage 1st round, so no Flurry/Monk stuff- 2 separate ways to calculate AC that don't stack, etc etc

[Runic Tunic]

If it helps OP, I plan on doing a barbarian/monk as well, and though it's not a very optimized I've heard it is actually very fun from those who've tried it.

I say go for it. Respec will be free and like I said earlier, there will be a lot of gear you can get to help deal with any low stat issues. There are a couple builds online to help too. Not many, but some.

[Farsha]

Originally posted by medicinezombie:

This is all correct, def not easy to put the build together.

But I think it could be viable in game - and in some ways, having MAD is a good thing for late game if there are enough items/buffs to actually get this PCs stats all high

Especially if the Belt of Giant Strength/Amulet of CON 19 from 5e exist in this game - then you collect one of those and go respecc the base stat down to an 8, move the points into DEX

For sure some rough edges - lose BA to rage 1st round, so no Flurry/Monk stuff- 2 separate ways to calculate AC that don't stack, etc etc

Yes with specific stat altering items it might work.
There are gloves that give Dex18 in ACT2. We know that from one of Fextralife videos. So with specific items it might kinda work.
But unless you respec into it later, that character will have to be carried a bit for a time for sure.

[BrutalHonestGaming]

Barbarian and Monk are both Melee Classes so technically they cancel each out and won't make the best build 😂
But there is always re-specing.


If you make a Barbarian/Monk you can't wear heavy armor, limited weapons, etc...

[BrutalHonestGaming]

Originally posted by Farsha:

Originally posted by medicinezombie:

This is all correct, def not easy to put the build together.

But I think it could be viable in game - and in some ways, having MAD is a good thing for late game if there are enough items/buffs to actually get this PCs stats all high

Especially if the Belt of Giant Strength/Amulet of CON 19 from 5e exist in this game - then you collect one of those and go respecc the base stat down to an 8, move the points into DEX

For sure some rough edges - lose BA to rage 1st round, so no Flurry/Monk stuff- 2 separate ways to calculate AC that don't stack, etc etc

Yes with specific stat altering items it might work.
There are gloves that give Dex18 in ACT2. We know that from one of Fextralife videos. So with specific items it might kinda work.
But unless you respec into it later, that character will have to be carried a bit for a time for sure.

Fextralife 😂 he thinks this that BG3 will be GOTY.

[Farsha]

Originally posted by BrutalHonestGaming:

Fextralife 😂 he thinks this that BG3 will be GOTY.

1st combining 2 martial classes is actually a good idea in DnD 5e.
Barb/Figher for example you get both Rage and Actions Surge. Pretty strong.
So cancelling out is not happening.

2nd played 200hrs of Early access. BG3 is GOTY of 2021, 2022 and 2023 for me mate.

[BrutalHonestGaming]

Originally posted by Farsha:

Originally posted by BrutalHonestGaming:

Fextralife 😂 he thinks this that BG3 will be GOTY.

1st combining 2 martial classes is actually a good idea in DnD 5e.
Barb/Figher for example you get both Rage and Actions Surge. Pretty strong.
So cancelling out is not happening.

2nd played 200hrs of Early access. BG3 is GOTY of 2021, 2022 and 2023 for me mate.

Fair Enough 😝

Barbarian is a subclass of Fighter ?!

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by BrutalHonestGaming:

Originally posted by Farsha:

1st combining 2 martial classes is actually a good idea in DnD 5e.
Barb/Figher for example you get both Rage and Actions Surge. Pretty strong.
So cancelling out is not happening.

2nd played 200hrs of Early access. BG3 is GOTY of 2021, 2022 and 2023 for me mate.

Fair Enough 😝

Barbarian is a subclass of Fighter ?!

Barbarian and fighter are their own thing. Farsha is saying that multiclassing into barbarian and fighter is super strong to show that multiclassing into two melee classes is viable, which it is.

Nothing gets cancelled out by going into another range or melee class when multiclassing. It's more about how MAD it is and the benefits you get for the dip.

[BrutalHonestGaming]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Originally posted by BrutalHonestGaming:

Fair Enough 😝

Barbarian is a subclass of Fighter ?!

Barbarian and fighter are their own thing. Farsha is saying that multiclassing into barbarian and fighter is super strong to show that multiclassing into two melee classes is viable, which it is.

Nothing gets cancelled out by going into another range or melee class when multiclassing. It's more about how MAD it is and the benefits you get for the dip.

Great for Stat Mongering 😂