Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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pika Jun 12, 2023 @ 3:39am
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why can a barbarian cast firebolts?
doesnt make sense imo. wasnt the case in bg 1 and 2
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Lucifer Jun 12, 2023 @ 4:04am 
I have yet to play with barbarian class but it can cast fireball ?? You are not talking about scrolls are you?
Sonic Titan Jun 12, 2023 @ 4:27am 
Presumably because it's a high-elf related cantrip, available to all classes as high-elf (or high half-elf).
dolby Jun 12, 2023 @ 4:27am 
his probably talking about racial cantrips...
Cirrus Jun 12, 2023 @ 4:49am 
Originally posted by rödent:
doesnt make sense imo. wasnt the case in bg 1 and 2
It has zero relevance what bg1 and bg2 could be done.

This uses many many times overhauled and different (and of course newer) D&D ruleset. They do not compare.
Yojo0o Jun 12, 2023 @ 5:13am 
You never replied to your previous thread. Why make another one even after this question was answered ad nauseum?
Gaius Jun 12, 2023 @ 6:15am 
D&D 5e, that's why.
Dremall Jun 12, 2023 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by rödent:
doesnt make sense imo. wasnt the case in bg 1 and 2

Because in 5e certain races get access to spells, or spell like abilities. The drawback is you can't be raging, or have to drop rage, to use the spell.

Rage
In battle, you fight with primal ferocity. On your turn, you can enter a rage as a bonus action.

While raging, you gain the following benefits if you aren’t wearing heavy armor:

You have advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws.
When you make a melee weapon attack using Strength, you gain a bonus to the damage roll that increases as you gain levels as a barbarian, as shown in the Rage Damage column of the Barbarian table.
You have resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage.
If you are able to cast spells, you can’t cast them or concentrate on them while raging.

Your rage lasts for 1 minute. It ends early if you are knocked unconscious or if your turn ends and you haven’t attacked a hostile creature since your last turn or taken damage since then. You can also end your rage on your turn as a bonus action.

Once you have raged the number of times shown for your barbarian level in the Rages column of the Barbarian table, you must finish a long rest before you can rage again.
pika Jun 12, 2023 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Yojo0o:
You never replied to your previous thread. Why make another one even after this question was answered ad nauseum?
because the question was too general and many replies were downright false.
Yojo0o Jun 12, 2023 @ 7:32am 
Show me a BG1-BG2 barbarian, and I'll show you a character who knows at least three spells for most of their journey. BG1-2 didn't have any party member barbarians, so the only ones that existed were the main character, and if you're the main character, you learned Bhaalspawn spells throughout BG1 that persisted for most of BG2. And Rage didn't even block spellcasting in those games, if memory serves.

But besides that point, I don't really see how this is objectionable. DnD has always featured high-magic settings. Knowing spells isn't particularly unique or rare.
Yojo0o Jun 12, 2023 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by rödent:
Originally posted by Yojo0o:
You never replied to your previous thread. Why make another one even after this question was answered ad nauseum?
because the question was too general and many replies were downright false.

Okay.

You were wrong about BG1-2. Rangers and Paladins both learned spells in those games.

Spellcasting is common in DnD.

Your barbarian knows Firebolt because you're playing either a High Elf or High Half-Elf and chose Firebolt as your racial cantrip.

Any other questions?
Sonic Titan Jun 12, 2023 @ 7:38am 
I don't think "Firebolt" is castable by anyone at all in BG1/2, actually.
Lucifer Jun 12, 2023 @ 7:56am 
Imagine people have no idea about racial cantrips
Nessa Jun 12, 2023 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Sonic Titan:
I don't think "Firebolt" is castable by anyone at all in BG1/2, actually.

"Firebolt" doesn't exist in BG1&2. Cantrips didn't exist back then. Anything else?
Sonic Titan Jun 12, 2023 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by Sily:
Originally posted by Sonic Titan:
I don't think "Firebolt" is castable by anyone at all in BG1/2, actually.

"Firebolt" doesn't exist in BG1&2. Cantrips didn't exist back then. Anything else?
In my best McBain voice, "that was the joke".
Prophet Ge Jun 14, 2023 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by rödent:
doesnt make sense imo. wasnt the case in bg 1 and 2

Barbarians have nature magic! Fire is part of nature! Of course they can cast fire spells, come on! :)
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