Getting Disarmed deletes your weapons

[Eedjit]

So ive been disarmed a couple of times, every time the weapons disappear from the game entirely, not on the ground, not in the inventory, not in the corpse of the one doing the disarming, anyone else?

[Don Melon]

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

This happens when you are disarmed by an opponent that actually "pockets" your weapon rather than letting it fall to the ground. Most enemies that disarm you do not "pocket" your weapon, they let it fall to the ground and you can pick it up after the fight no problem.

Even if they do pocket your weapon so long as you kill them legit you can loot the weapon back from their corpse. The problem only arises when the enemy's corpse is no longer available to loot for whatever reason.

One famous place where this happens a lot is with the three mimic boxes at the Harper's stash in Grymforge. Mimic boxes both disarm you and "pocket" your weapon. In this fight you are on a small ledge surrounded by deep chasm on three sides. It is very tempting, and very easy, to push these mimic boxes over the side, especially if you're using a Warlock with upgraded Eldritch Blast. If you do and the mimic box in question has previously disarmed one of your party then you can say bye bye to your precious weapon 'cos it's fallen into the void inside the mimic box.

I have lodged a suggestion that this is unreasonable since it's actually quite hard to notice you've been disarmed in many circumstances, it's not immediately obvious.

The other example quoted several times here that I haven't experienced yet myself seems to be the the "mirror" fight at the Shar temple. I would imagine the reason for this is that your mirror opponents do "pocket" disarmed weapons and when you kill them they evaporate from the game totally and take your precious weapon with them.

If so that qualifies as a bug IMHO. They shouldn't do that. There is no reason why they should "pocket" the weapons, they should just let them drop to the ground. This is much more egregious than the Harper's stash mimic box situation since there you can deliberately refrain from pushing them into the void but in the mirror fight there is absolutely nothing you can do about it it seems.

Meanwhile this fight needs to be treated with extreme caution. Probably the best way to deal with it is to equip everyone with trash weapons you don't care about until Larian do something make changes.

Those buggers actually steal your weapons when they disarm you? That's a new for me, thank you. – I already submitted it as a bug, lol

Btw, Mimics are easy peasy, shoot them from the ledge :)

[wardp9541]

Originally posted by Lemon stealing ♥♥♥♥♥:

So ive been disarmed a couple of times, every time the weapons disappear from the game entirely, not on the ground, not in the inventory, not in the corpse of the one doing the disarming, anyone else?

I've been disarmed a few times now in the span of 30 minutes. a few times, its just dropped to the ground able to be retrieved. a two of those times, the item has dropped and it disappears. one of those times was my legendary blood of lathander. i can go back to a previous save and its there, but thats really annoying

[a.out]

Originally posted by zpc:

Originally posted by Alkimi:

Nope. In all earlier saves character is no longer equipped and the weapon is gone.

A game doesn't alter all savegames retrospectively.

Originally posted by KitteninaBox:

Wow, something that even effects saves is pretty game breaking.

That's just not what is happening.

A bug can literally affect anything,.

Normally if someone claimed that this had happened I would totally agree with you - no game would ever have any code in it that triggered a re-write of old save game files from an in-game event. The idea is ridiculous.

Heh this thread is a fine collection of dunning kruger effects.

[gerald2]

Originally posted by Lemon stealing ♥♥♥♥♥:

So ive been disarmed a couple of times, every time the weapons disappear from the game entirely, not on the ground, not in the inventory, not in the corpse of the one doing the disarming, anyone else?

thats weird i always find my weaps on the ground in such cases

[Don Melon]

Originally posted by wardp9541:

Originally posted by Lemon stealing ♥♥♥♥♥:

So ive been disarmed a couple of times, every time the weapons disappear from the game entirely, not on the ground, not in the inventory, not in the corpse of the one doing the disarming, anyone else?

I've been disarmed a few times now in the span of 30 minutes. a few times, its just dropped to the ground able to be retrieved. a two of those times, the item has dropped and it disappears. one of those times was my legendary blood of lathander. i can go back to a previous save and its there, but thats really annoying

I have just tried it now if they steal/pocket your weapon as Gregorovitch suggested above. No, the weapons vanish. They are not in the corpses nor underneath them on the ground, they are just gone.

[Croissant Expert]

Just lost a Very Rare weapon this way...
It should automatically be back in the inventory when the fight is won imo

[Pieshaman]

tonight i had something weird.
enemy did a double disarm on the fallen lover (from the dryad)
but that treeman don't have any arms so he could just hit that enemy in the face anyway next turn lol

[Dolobill]

Just lost a rare weapon at the Shar mirror fight. Definitely bugged as I'm clearly not the only one having a problem with this particular encounter.

[Axel]

Originally posted by Dolobill:

Just lost a rare weapon at the Shar mirror fight. Definitely bugged as I'm clearly not the only one having a problem with this particular encounter.

Yep. Mirror Karlach disamred my Tav and my weapons vanished. Had to reload. Bye, Blood of Lathander and Defender Flail.

[info]

Originally posted by Lemon stealing ♥♥♥♥♥:

So ive been disarmed a couple of times, every time the weapons disappear from the game entirely, not on the ground, not in the inventory, not in the corpse of the one doing the disarming, anyone else?

Two or three times I found they were under the floor, literally, when you swivel the camera sometimes you get a blip of them when pressing the alt key and then you can retrieve them...it's idiotic.

[Lani]

Originally posted by Axel:

Originally posted by Dolobill:

Just lost a rare weapon at the Shar mirror fight. Definitely bugged as I'm clearly not the only one having a problem with this particular encounter.

Yep. Mirror Karlach disamred my Tav and my weapons vanished. Had to reload. Bye, Blood of Lathander and Defender Flail.

Ouch! That sucks.
I had something similar but in reverse.
Some of the mirrors dropped their weapons giving me two Blood of Lathander for Lae'Zel to wield.

[info]

Originally posted by Lani:

Originally posted by Axel:

Yep. Mirror Karlach disamred my Tav and my weapons vanished. Had to reload. Bye, Blood of Lathander and Defender Flail.

Ouch! That sucks.
I had something similar but in reverse.
Some of the mirrors dropped their weapons giving me two Blood of Lathander for Lae'Zel to wield.

Oh wow...that a bug or intended you think?...man repeating that right now with my rares on hand.

[BT]

Originally posted by info:

Originally posted by Lani:

Ouch! That sucks.
I had something similar but in reverse.
Some of the mirrors dropped their weapons giving me two Blood of Lathander for Lae'Zel to wield.

Oh wow...that a bug or intended you think?...man repeating that right now with my rares on hand.

It’s a feature to make the game more repayable

[Joego13]

Just had this happen to me. And to all the people going "oh, the npc just pocketed it" or "oh, press alt to see it on the ground," you're wrong and yes this is a bug.

During a fight in the monastery a gith disarmed Astarion in my party and I could not see the weapon on the ground. Tried to load to right before the fight and it was gone. I then kept going back: the weapons are gone from every single save in the monastery area. I can find Astarion with the weapons in the save game from literally 3 minutes before entering the monastery area.

I imagine that to keep save files smaller Larian probably has a base shared save file of the state you were in when you entered an area and then just saves changes from that base state, but in this case the bug affected the base save. Again, I have a quick save from like 3 minutes before entering the monastery area and then the auto-save for the monastery area. Nothing happens between the two, but the weapons are there before entering the monastery and are gone for every save after entering.

Edit: After further testing, I've been able to pinpoint what it actually happening. It's not related to the save files: sometimes, you character will be disarmed but for whatever reason it will not register as being disarmed. It will still have your weapons on, still be able to perform attacks, etc. But if you get disarmed again, the weapons will drop at the site of the first disarm, not the current. In my case, my Astarion was disarmed during the fight with the Gith before entering the mountain pass. But he still showed with his weapons on. I went into the mountain pass still with his weapons on. But when he was disarmed again inside the monastery, his weapons dropped outside the entrance of mountain pass. The save games without his weapon in the monastery were just reflecting what the game did not.

[GunplaGoblin]

I just lost mine in the Gauntlet of Shar when you fight the duplicates. Disarmed me and then they revert to skeletons with nothing when die.