Party movement and positioning

[Wox]

I really like the game and been playing nothing else since days, but there are some issues that really frustrates me.

The group movement and selection of seperate groupmembers is really REALLY bad and the companions are borderline suicidal.
All just follow the currently selected member and stumble behind like a flock of headless chickens into traps, hazards and sightlines of enemys.
I know i can degroup, but now i have to micromanage everyone seperatly?

Then i cant select multiple members of the group, only a leader, where the grouped members just follow like braindead lemmings.

I like to play stealthy, but as a group where the selection is this time consuming, you have to move everyone alone or if you dont take the time to degroup, everyone turn onto their heels just to run back into the poison cloud or the next already sighted trap when you want to move 1-2 out of danger.

Then why cant we control the positioning of the party, in a game where positions are somewhat important?
I dont want my glasscannon mc wizard running infront, but i also dont want the barbarian tank as selected player (so he is infront) start the conversations.

I can manage with constant reloading and sneaking around, but its just tedious and stressfull at best.
Am hoping Larian tweaks a few things or there will be a mod for that.

[BigJ]

I really have nothing to add, you ilustrated the issue better than I ever could, +1

[guppy]

yeah nearly went to war with the zentharim because the other party members insist on running over behind you instead of just waiting for you to pass and THEN follow.

[Kabreras]

Agree !

[Kzc]

+1

[manfred.stabentheiner]

you can psoition where you wish
1 1 1 1 or 1 2 1 or 2 2 or 1 3 or 4

[thurrak]

I mean they do give you all the tools you need to control the characters precisely, you just have to train yourself to do it properly. Hitting G really fast when you think they are going to wander into bad spots is key. They will stop immediately. Also you can Shift+Space to go into turn based mode to really get precise. You have to stop treating the game like an ARPG and play it like a turn based CRPG

[The Key of Diary]

Agreed, the party movement is annoying.
I would move around acid, when the rest of my party just starts swimming in the puddle, screaming in agony. Then When I realized I need to go back, I carefully move around it once again, while they dive head first into the same sh!t that made them scream but 2 seconds ago!

[CiZerin]

Originally posted by thurrak:

I mean they do give you all the tools you need to control the characters precisely, you just have to train yourself to do it properly. Hitting G really fast when you think they are going to wander into bad spots is key. They will stop immediately. Also you can Shift+Space to go into turn based mode to really get precise. You have to stop treating the game like an ARPG and play it like a turn based CRPG

all based CRPGs have Formations
also all based CRPG let you choose your party face without needing to control it as a movement leader

[Wox]

Originally posted by thurrak:

I mean they do give you all the tools you need to control the characters precisely, you just have to train yourself to do it properly. Hitting G really fast when you think they are going to wander into bad spots is key. They will stop immediately. Also you can Shift+Space to go into turn based mode to really get precise. You have to stop treating the game like an ARPG and play it like a turn based CRPG

Hey i didnt know that! Thanks.
That makes the traps definetly more bareable, but still wouldnt help with random fight/dialog encouters.

[Wox]

Originally posted by thurrak:

all based CRPGs have Formations
also all based CRPG let you choose your party face without needing to control it as a movement leader

Yep. Recently played PoE2 before BG3 and i really miss the Formation control, mouse select and drag select...

[CiZerin]

Originally posted by Wox:

Originally posted by thurrak:

all based CRPGs have Formations
also all based CRPG let you choose your party face without needing to control it as a movement leader

Yep. Recently played PoE2 before BG3 and i really miss the Formation control, mouse select and drag select...

sry, too advanced technologies for small 400 ppl game studio

[Alondrix]

Grab the portrait of the character you want to separate and pull away from the group until the chain breaks and there is a space between the other portraits. You can now control this character separately. Handy for scouting...

[CiZerin]

Originally posted by Alondrix:

Grab the portrait of the character you want to separate and pull away from the group until the chain breaks and there is a space between the other portraits. You can now control this character separately. Handy for scouting...

it works if your scout is your party face, otherwise no

[Farsha]

There is a got key for "Group Toggle" default "G" bind it yo your favorite key and you will use that hot-key a lot.
And year Larian Avatar control mechanics are not great, but they have their reasons it is like that.

[Wox]

Originally posted by Farsha:

There is a got key for "Group Toggle" default "G" bind it yo your favorite key and you will use that hot-key a lot.
And year Larian Avatar control mechanics are not great, but they have their reasons it is like that.

That is my complaint. Now i have to babysit everyone seperatly. Very time consuming and it still doesnt help with random encounters.

I guess its because of the multiplayer. You can change the charakter and still move around when one is in an conversation.
It would help if you could at least change the charakter talking.
Right now the rest of the party just stands drooling in the background while the 8 int/cha barbarian tries to get a clear thought.