This game also feels like a spiritual successor to DAO.

[Ephemerant]

While the story continues the Baldur's Gate thread, the gameplay and systems feel very close to Dragon Age Origins just with turn based combat.

Which is a good thing in my eyes.

[PcCriminal]

Originally posted by Ethanwulf:

Originally posted by IVIAY:

If you play with a gamepad, with full zoom in, you can get very similar controls.

That's correct. I'm playing like this and it's way more fun than click on map or hold mouse button to move. You basically walk with a controller like in any game with 3rd person view. Though I don't understand why it was not made for keyboard users.

Because Larian thinks that every PC player is a goblin who has to minmax everything.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by PcCriminal:

Originally posted by Ephemerant:

While the story continues the Baldur's Gate thread, the gameplay and systems feel very close to Dragon Age Origins just with turn based combat.

Which is a good thing in my eyes.

I have to agree, yet BG3 makes me want to play Dragon Age, even after 14 years nothing comes close to Origins in terms of story, characters and choices.

BG 1&2 are better than DAO when it comes to story and characters, so is KoTOR, and so is Jade Empire.

[PcCriminal]

Originally posted by Tr0w:

Originally posted by PcCriminal:

I have to agree, yet BG3 makes me want to play Dragon Age, even after 14 years nothing comes close to Origins in terms of story, characters and choices.

BG 1&2 are better than DAO when it comes to story and characters, so is KoTOR, and so is Jade Empire.

Kotor is debatable, both are great games but the ones you've listed didn't age like fine wine and it's hard to play them without technical problems.

[NeeLot]

Originally posted by Abisha:

PT=leap because not ony was it the best looking game (for it's time) but also interesting companions, story, a book full of reading (even today people talk about discuss this game) which is over 25 years old

What? Are you referring to Planescape: Torment? For it's time it was exactly not pushing boundries in terms of graphical fidelity, although it did have nice pre-rendered environments. Yes, the story is great, maybe even among the best, which is why I brought it up.

Originally posted by Abisha:

DAO, human emotional characters what made it feels like humans, Graphics obvious, interesting dynamics between you and characters in the world. even interesting Class's not seen in RPG world. (blood mage example) 15 years old and people try to compare it to this.

Was the leap the emotional story and characters feeling like humans? Was that your first Bioware game? Also DAO wasn't pushing graphics forward either. I think visually it had going were the pretty decent looking cutscenes, which I think was unseen before for a cRPG, but people weren't exactly singing praises for a game that was mostly brown and relatively low on fidelity even for 2009. Where is the leap?

Originally posted by Abisha:

BG3 it's a good game fun turn base, but it have nothing out of ordinary in 5 years people don't even know it existed while the others will be forever.

I'd say it's pretty good at adapting a tabletop experience into a video game, something I can't say about most RPG games out there and something I especially cannot say about any of the Dragon Age games. I'm yet to make a judgement on the story, because I'm yet to actually beat the game.

[ccs90]

Originally posted by Kemalist(mdx³):

DAO was a Masterpiece, BG3 is a solid 7/10 (8/10 without crashes every 5 minutes).
DAO is old and dated but the npc interaction feels way more organic than whatever this game tries to be.
BG3 is "shiny" for the sake of being shiny, adds tons of stuff, and everything is halfcooked.
Larian nearly went bancrupt multiple times during development and it shows, scope for the sake of scope.

As a diehard BG2 fan, DAO was more like BG2 then BG3 is. I also really loved DAO.

I thought BG3 was a hot pile of dog crap... I got a refund before the time limit and *ahem borrowed a copy of the game to give it another chance for 20 or so hours. I hate everything about BG3 and wish I could get my time refunded as well. I was so excited for this game and it is so God awful.... I've never been so disappointed by a game in my entire life. I also really loved DOS1 and 2 by larian. But this was so bad, I'll probably permanently boycott them. Definitely won't even try DOS3, which is a shame.

[lailaamell]

Dao is an action rpg

[Hans CakeStealer]

no it doesn't and how dare you put DAO the greatest RPG of our time in with this woke trash

[lailaamell]

Bg 3 needs aligment honestly to give it a true dnd feeling

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Ephemerant:

This game also feels like a spiritual successor to DAO.
While the story continues the Baldur's Gate thread, the gameplay and systems feel very close to Dragon Age Origins just with turn based combat.

Which is a good thing in my eyes.

Sounds like you have not played many other RPGs

[NeeLot]

Originally posted by lailaamell95:

Dao is an action rpg

It's not.

Originally posted by lailaamell95:

Bg 3 needs aligment honestly to give it a true dnd feeling

I don't think I know any DM who uses alignment over character backstory in D&D. It's already not doing anything in terms of mechanics in 5e and even Pathfinder is moving away from it.

[Ephemerant]

Originally posted by Abisha:

You do not have a wardog, script editor to edit AI for your companion. , better class's
gear that matters. etc, etc.

You can play a Beastmaster Ranger and your companion doesn't count against your party limit, or use Find Familiar; you can also find a dog to join your camp.

You don't need a script editor in turn based combat, so that's moot.

You get tons of gear that can benefit many classes and builds. So I don't understand this at all.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by ccs90:

Originally posted by Kemalist(mdx³):

DAO was a Masterpiece, BG3 is a solid 7/10 (8/10 without crashes every 5 minutes).
DAO is old and dated but the npc interaction feels way more organic than whatever this game tries to be.
BG3 is "shiny" for the sake of being shiny, adds tons of stuff, and everything is halfcooked.
Larian nearly went bancrupt multiple times during development and it shows, scope for the sake of scope.

As a diehard BG2 fan, DAO was more like BG2 then BG3 is. I also really loved DAO.

I thought BG3 was a hot pile of dog crap... I got a refund before the time limit and *ahem borrowed a copy of the game to give it another chance for 20 or so hours. I hate everything about BG3 and wish I could get my time refunded as well. I was so excited for this game and it is so God awful.... I've never been so disappointed by a game in my entire life. I also really loved DOS1 and 2 by larian. But this was so bad, I'll probably permanently boycott them. Definitely won't even try DOS3, which is a shame.

Perfectly playable for me.

[waryorx]

i agree when i played it, it is more like DAO more than classic cRPG like baldurs gate 1-2. They both have voiced dialogues, a safe camp where you can speak with your companions, romance them nearly everybody.

the difference is combat, DAO is more like baldursgate 1-2 its real time combat where you can pause in midfight and not turn based. There is no jumping or Z level feature instead DAO is a flat map like BG 1-2.

I think DAO is in between classic cRPG and BG3.

BG3 is more like divinity series in gameplay wise only difference is the rule book is DnD not divinity rules.

I remember a mod in DAO where they remake the BG 2 starting laboratory area exactly same in DAO engine and i think DAO is better succesor for classic cRPG genre but bioware messed up with it with DA 2 so that the game become more casual.

[stJae]

And it would be really awesome if they include 3rd person perspective with WASD controls, like in DAO

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by waryorx:

i agree when i played it, it is more like DAO more than classic cRPG like baldurs gate 1-2. They both have voiced dialogues, a safe camp where you can speak with your companions, romance them nearly everybody.

the difference is combat, DAO is more like baldursgate 1-2 its real time combat where you can pause in midfight and not turn based. There is no jumping or Z level feature instead DAO is a flat map like BG 1-2.

I think DAO is in between classic cRPG and BG3.

BG3 is more like divinity series in gameplay wise only difference is the rule book is DnD not divinity rules.

I remember a mod in DAO where they remake the BG 2 starting laboratory area exactly same in DAO engine and i think DAO is better succesor for classic cRPG genre but bioware messed up with it with DA 2 so that the game become more casual.

CRPG just means Computer Role Playing Game, RTWP has nothing to do with whether something is a CRPG or not. Mass Effect and FF7R have RTWP...