Can you save Mayrina?

[WereElf]

I still can't save her, even after Hotfix 2. But I am doing it the lazy way - killing the hag while she's still in the teahouse, so I don't have to go through her lair. So has anyone killed her 'the proper way'? Did it work, or did Mayrina get stuck in the 1-st phase of her dialogue for you too?

EDIT: (Due to confusing wording in the OP)
I don't mean 'save Mayrina form her cage'. I mean, that if I kill the hag on the top floor (before she goes to her basement), I can not complete the quest 'Save Mayrina', because talking to her is meaningless. I talk to her, finish the dialogue and she stays around the table with the spoiled tart. Or if I let the hag teleport Mayrina, but don't allow the hag to follow her (by placing a warding glyph on the fireplace, so she'd get killed when she tries to escape), Mayrina stays around her cage and does not go to her husband's coffin.
Furthermore, the traps leading to the hag's 'workshop' (the gas pits and explosive flowers) do not get disabled AND Connor's coffin is surrounded by an Arcane Barrier, even after the hag's death.
Talking to Mayrina again just repeats the same dialogue ("You bastard! You ruined it!") over and over again, and does not progress the quest.
Video of the bug: https://youtu.be/OsXPwX8EAD4

[Odium]

So how I done this was by:
Going to the lair, in the cage room, sneak to and down the right side and you won't draw agro, there's a room you can stick the rest of your party in (Close the door after).
Carry on sneaking round the right and you'll see an orange control orb, here you want to jump over the small ledge (If you walk, you'll path around and agro the hag, use the control orb and the cage will be lowered and opened. Here it's up to you, I'm playing a paladin so I just sanc'd myself and pulled agro, dashed to the room with my party, opened the door (the reason why you close it so the illusions don't wreck your party) and closed it behind me, controlled the choke point, killed the illusions, killed the hag and job done.

[WereElf]

I see that people are still getting confused by what I mean, so I updated the OP. It's quadruple the length this time, but hopefully people will now know what I'm talking about.

[Ghart]

did you take the wand from the hag lair/working space?

[WereElf]

Originally posted by Ghart:

did you take the wand from the hag lair/working space?

Yes, I did.

[rasabt]

Originally posted by WereElf:

I see that people are still getting confused by what I mean, so I updated the OP. It's quadruple the length this time, but hopefully people will now know what I'm talking about.

your edited describtion sounds realy buggy
did you do the "uninstall the EA version and EA saves"-thing before starting the full release?

i did the fight in the main room (before Ethel first runs away), without issue
i did the follow-along line without issue
i did the gotroughEthelsBSmaze and do the "real" bossfight downstrairs (throw water bottels at the cage/and or lower the cage) without issue

but the game is very prone to glitches and very buggy, so who knows
i'd load up an earlier save and do the quest the "standart" way, aka let Ethel run in her den

[WereElf]

Here's a recording of the bug (which I just made):
https://youtu.be/OsXPwX8EAD4
I will also put this link in the OP.

Also, I did not have any leftovers from EA. I deleted the game, the folder in Users, etc. Followed Larian's instructions to the letter.

[ACS36]

use your brain there is obvious solution to simple puzzles

[WereElf]

Originally posted by ACS36:

use your brain there is obvious solution to simple puzzles

You didn't even have time to watch the video, it's 8 mins long.
I've done this many times in EA, but it no longer works.

[TheZWolf]

Originally posted by LJ-the-brave:

You can save Mayrina if you use an ice spell on her cage so it won't burn and drop her.

You can even just throw a water bottle

[Cousin Okri]

So, my way to go was usually this.

- Take Gale in your party, he MUST have Magic Missiles as prepared spell.
- Detach him and let him go to the right while your party goes to the left, then trigger the encounter with him. The Hag will spawn closer to your allies.
- Use Magic Missilies to dispatch the illusions of the Hag: they have only 1 HP, and the spell cannot miss. While doing this, move him to the control switch of the cage while your party hits the Hag hard. Repeat if the Hag creates more clone.
- When the cage goes down, move Gale closer to her: for some reason, this will give her courage to make that 0.5 mt step outside of it.
- Slap the ♥♥♥♥ out of what's left of that ugly wench.
- Go inside the house with Mayrina to have tea and scones with the deranged frog.
- ???
- Profit

[TheZWolf]

Originally posted by Cousin Okri:

So, my way to go was usually this.

- Take Gale in your party, he MUST have Magic Missiles as prepared spell.
- Detach him and let him go to the right while your party goes to the left, then trigger the encounter with him. The Hag will spawn closer to your allies.
- Use Magic Missilies to dispatch the illusions of the Hag: they have only 1 HP, and the spell cannot miss. While doing this, move him to the control switch of the cage while your party hits the Hag hard. Repeat if the Hag creates more clone.
- When the cage goes down, move Gale closer to her: for some reason, this will give her courage to make that 0.5 mt step outside of it.
- Slap the ♥♥♥♥ out of what's left of that ugly wench.
- Go inside the house with Mayrina to have tea and scones with the deranged frog.
- ???
- Profit

If you want to kill her really fast but miss out on loot.. Push her down the chasm

[Cousin Okri]

Originally posted by TheZWolf:

Originally posted by Cousin Okri:

So, my way to go was usually this.

- Take Gale in your party, he MUST have Magic Missiles as prepared spell.
- Detach him and let him go to the right while your party goes to the left, then trigger the encounter with him. The Hag will spawn closer to your allies.
- Use Magic Missilies to dispatch the illusions of the Hag: they have only 1 HP, and the spell cannot miss. While doing this, move him to the control switch of the cage while your party hits the Hag hard. Repeat if the Hag creates more clone.
- When the cage goes down, move Gale closer to her: for some reason, this will give her courage to make that 0.5 mt step outside of it.
- Slap the ♥♥♥♥ out of what's left of that ugly wench.
- Go inside the house with Mayrina to have tea and scones with the deranged frog.
- ???
- Profit

If you want to kill her really fast but miss out on loot.. Push her down the chasm

I did that with the Drow commander at the goblin camp.
My first reaction was "Hell yeah, easy combat", but after a second I went to "Wait a m... MY LOOT?!!!"

Also, since I was an EA of the game, I knew having her beg for mercy had outcomes that I wanted to take. So no pushy pushy, just smashy smashy with the Hot (literally) barbarian chick and her greataxe.

[Yagger]

Originally posted by RACHMANOVSKI:

Originally posted by Fenval:

It's not bugged. I just threw a water bottle at the cage and it stopped burning. Y'all gotta stop spreading false news like that lol

He beat the Hag without her being able to retreat.

meaning he straight went for the eyes as soon as the party enter the decrepit tea house.

It's easily done. During EA this is the fastest way to deal with the Hag (if you don't care about the +1 ASI from the hag).

never got the option to talk to her when beating her up, she just dies

[djbmcmahon]

SPOILER**

Legit just did this quest with some mates and it ended hilariously, one turn before the cage would have given out between our 3 hamster brains we realized we should try use water to put out the fire which worked. Then after we beat the hag, we were in hot debate in whether to give up Mayrina for the points or not, luckily the one that initiated dialogue had the required class to intimidate for both Mayrina and the bonus. After we looted as we left I spoke to her and had the option to use a wand we found to try fulfill the Hags promise of bringing him back. Dude came back as a mangled zombie and with one of us being having a focus on Necromancy we decided to keep him, which left her in a state haha.

Still kinda mad I didn't get to kill the Hag though, she was wretched.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Yagger:

Originally posted by RACHMANOVSKI:

He beat the Hag without her being able to retreat.

meaning he straight went for the eyes as soon as the party enter the decrepit tea house.

It's easily done. During EA this is the fastest way to deal with the Hag (if you don't care about the +1 ASI from the hag).

never got the option to talk to her when beating her up, she just dies

Same, she just got an axe in the face.

Also I had a use for my conjuration Gale making water! (It felt most fitting for RP)