Warlock/Monk players how do you feel?

[Velamont]

Since for some ungodly reason this game has limits on short rests I want to know how is your gameplay. Esp feedback from people that finished act1 would be appreciated.

UPD: thanks for feedback, guys. I will try castermonk-drow-darkurge.
UPD2: Actually yes, you can only benefit from one short rest a day in dnd 5e

[guppy]

As a warlock I'll admit I was a little annoyed with the fact that there was only 2 short rests - but with the way short rest healing is implemented it would be too op if there was more.

Still there seems to be absolutely no penalty for taking long rests, so you could in theory burn all your resources and long rest between each and every fight

[Viking]

Originally posted by igor140:

The funny thing is, they're actually good in 5e tabletop as well. They've just gotten SO much bad publicity from people who are bad at math and worse at imagination.

FACTS. Any warlock in 5e, regardless of subclass is the second highest DPR class in the game, add a few levels of sorcerer to grab quicken spell and they now beat out even battlemaster fighters for highest damage output per round do to basically being able to do 6d10+30+6d6 damage per round by just blasting cantrips. Stack that with Drow for a extra cast of darkness, elven accuracy, devil's sight and agonizing blast invocation and you now also have a 86% crit chance with every shot in TT. Warlocks are 1 trick ponies with good utility, but that one trick REALLY hurts lol.

[fox5s]

Originally posted by igor140:

In PnP, warlocks get a bad rap because they've been nerfed so much from 3.5e. EVERYTHING got nerfed from 3.5, but warlocks kind of lost their identity in the shuffle. That doesn't make them bad, though; people just believe what they read on the internet. I've played four different warlocks in tabletop, and every single one of them outperformed the paladin and the sorcerer.

Oh man, 3.5 Warlocks were so OP broken! Yes, you could build one that wasn't. But if you took a competent look at what they could do and picked the right things. Broken AF.

I like Pathfinders take on a class that effectively does the same thing, the Kineticist. But it's a completely different flavor. The 5e Patron approach is interesting and I like what they did with the class.

[Viking]

Originally posted by guppy:

As a warlock I'll admit I was a little annoyed with the fact that there was only 2 short rests - but with the way short rest healing is implemented it would be too op if there was more.

Still there seems to be absolutely no penalty for taking long rests, so you could in theory burn all your resources and long rest between each and every fight

You don't need more, if you do recruit a bard. Eldrich Blast is your go to move, grab agonizing blast, repelling blast and devil's sight. Grab pact of the chain invocation for the imp familiar. Drop hex on the biggest threat always choosing to hex dex to debuff them for other casters as the big damage in this game is always dex saves and go ham with eldrich blast. Save spell slots for counter spell and shield from magic adept sorcerer. You will be a walking genocide.

[balmung]

Can say for sure that the shadow monk is an absolute badass. He is only lvl 6 and he already can out-damage Lae'Zel\warrior on a single target. Not to mention, that you can stun-lock bosses, which is OP. Also, he can go sneak with quick action, has almost free +10 sneak for the entire party, and has a free 18m teleport as long as the area is dark enough. And i didn't even multi-class him into rogue for a sneak attack yet.
I was worried about Ki management at the beginning, but now my worries are all gone. At lvl 6 you have 7Ki points which is more than enough for combat encounters, and with a click of a button you can short rest and replenish it all. Don't be afraid of spending short rests and long rests, BG3 incentivizes you to take a long rest to progress in a story and character development. I don't know about tactician difficulty, but on normal i am drowning in camp supplies, i literally have enough to feed the whole Underdark (above 4k supplies).
Every class seems to be very powerful when it is not "out of the water". If you use a class properly it sometimes feels OP. For example, Gale is an evocation wizard but he always slacks behind everyone else with cantrip damage but sometimes he manages to kill 3-4 enemies with a single fireball or gust of wind. Shadowheart has ♥♥♥♥ damage, but she can turn the tide of battle by healing, resurrecting, and buffing your party. Considering Shadowheart can be a good frontline "tank" with light domain, she just won't let anyone die.
Just don't try to be the jack of all trades with your character, and steal someone else's job and you will be Gucci.

[guppy]

Originally posted by ApocNizmith:

Originally posted by guppy:

As a warlock I'll admit I was a little annoyed with the fact that there was only 2 short rests - but with the way short rest healing is implemented it would be too op if there was more.

Still there seems to be absolutely no penalty for taking long rests, so you could in theory burn all your resources and long rest between each and every fight

You don't need more, if you do recruit a bard. Eldrich Blast is your go to move, grab agonizing blast, repelling blast and devil's sight. Grab pact of the chain invocation for the imp familiar. Drop hex on the biggest threat always choosing to hex dex to debuff them for other casters as the big damage in this game is always dex saves and go ham with eldrich blast. Save spell slots for counter spell and shield from magic adept sorcerer. You will be a walking genocide.

A common misconception - Hex does **NOT** affect saving throws but **only** skillchecks opposed or otherwise. ( This is true both in 5e and BG3 )

so :

STR - jump, shove, resisting shove
WIS - preception

and so on.

[[Heretic]Rivga]

It is a huge shame they did not add a few more invocations, the push one is great but having access to the pull version of eldritch blast would have opened up some any more tactical options, for very little effort on the devs part.

[Abisha]

plebs choose mage, sorceress.
while the real casters use a warlock.

[fox5s]

Originally posted by Abisha:

plebs choose mage, sorceress.
while the real casters use a warlock.

BAIT! Funny bait. But bait none the less. :D

[guppy]

Originally posted by HereticRivga:

It is a huge shame they did not add a few more invocations, the push one is great but having access to the pull version of eldritch blast would have opened up some any more tactical options, for very little effort on the devs part.

Grasp of Hadar is from XGtE - I think they only licensed the base PHB/DMG.

But even if it were in game then unlike the push version you only get to pull ONCE :(

So if all you are interested in doing that you could use thorn whip - ofc it would cost of a feat to get it ( spellsniper or magic initiate )

[guppy]

Originally posted by Frederik:

Originally posted by guppy:

Grasp of Hadar is from XGtE - I think they only licensed the base PHB/DMG.

But even if it were in game then unlike the push version you only get to pull ONCE :(

So if all you are interested in doing that you could use thorn whip - ofc it would cost of a feat to get it ( spellsniper or magic initiate )

pact of the tome gets thorn whip

True, I just assumed pact of the blade since he wanted them closer - my bad :)