Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Xenon Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:11pm
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Characters' Sexuality
I have to say, I kinda hate that every single member of my team is a bisexual...

I understand why it was done that way - to give the players as many options as possible. But in doing so, the game made all these characters come off less unique. Sexuality is a part of a person's personality. It's what makes a person unique among other things. Everybody being bisexual is no less bland than everybody being straight.

What makes matters worse is that they all want to have sex with me. Raise your approval with a character high enough, and they WILL ask you to ♥♥♥ em. Some will be more direct than others, but the point is always the same.

And finally, to make it EVEN MORE worse, the game kinda made my own character bisexual, without really giving me a choice. I noticed that in multiple scenes. Here are some examples:
1. When Gail was showing me how to control the weave, there were a lot of close up shots with looks and smiles and undeniable sexual tension. All that was missing were some sweet moans.
2. Every time Astarion hits on me, most of my options are to either agree, reject him but assure him that he is handsome, or reject him like he disgusts me.
3. Finally, I had a weird interaction with Halsin. After I saved him and he came to my camp, we discussed what our next steps are going to be and he agreed to join my group. Next time I talked to him, I ended up apologizing for hitting on...Eh? When the hell did I hit on him?!

So yeah, not happy with this kind of writing. In a hilarious twist, by trying to give me more options, the game actually limited my options. I imagine this can be addressed by patches.
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Metadigital Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:14pm 
Due to the expense and inconvenience of voice acting compared to plain text, these sorts of issues are rarely changed unless they're changed very quickly. I wouldn't get my hopes up too much, but it's always possible.
freejack Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:17pm 
I wouldn’t be against this if there were also ways to establish platonic relationships. We’ve completely lost that option and that should be an issue everyone should agree with.
echoes222 Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:17pm 
it's not even bi. All npcs are player sexual. I hate that mechanic in games. You could argue that Bioware have a lot of their romances as bi, since they still keep some straight or homosexual characters. In this game, you get the same reaction regardless of your sex.
Aldain Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:19pm 
It's way frontloaded and very awkward, things like this are the downfall of making an entire cast of playersexual characters, they come off as way too horny and that can even get in the way of their character development imo.
Neblunoa Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:22pm 
You are very wrong in some of your statements. Sexuality isn't a part of the personality. My sexuality doesn't define me as a person. The fact that the main characters are bisexual is totally irrelevant to the story they want to tell.
Noxsa Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:22pm 
you lot need to understand its a game, not real life. but i don't see or have overly horney people in my party or camp, what options do you lot pick in dialog that make them so horney.
Vorpal Spoon Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by ⎛⎝ Velka ⎠⎞:
I do think it feels a bit artifical and dumb when everyone is bisexual in games, it can work and make for more options if done in a more subtle way.
The problem is that in the game everyone is so ultra horny so quickly that it ends up being absurd.

It feels like every character is a horny teenager and like they're aggressively pursuing you rather than the other way around.

And then you basically have to reject everyone lol, just being friendly with someone will make them think you're their soul mate it's ridiculous.
Someone who gave BG3 a negative review had stated that the entire oversexed dialogue had a writing cast full of neckbeards, lol!
ULTRA Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:24pm 
Do you fellas remember how in Torchwood everyone was bi and then they swapped writers in season 3 or 4 and all of a sudden Ianto's family was like "he's gay hee hee"

what was that all about
Power Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by Xenon:
I have to say, I kinda hate that every single member of my team is a bisexual...

I understand why it was done that way - to give the players as many options as possible. But in doing so, the game made all these characters come off less unique. Sexuality is a part of a person's personality. It's what makes a person unique among other things. Everybody being bisexual is no less bland than everybody being straight.

What makes matters worse is that they all want to have sex with me. Raise your approval with a character high enough, and they WILL ask you to ♥♥♥ em. Some will be more direct than others, but the point is always the same.

And finally, to make it EVEN MORE worse, the game kinda made my own character bisexual, without really giving me a choice. I noticed that in multiple scenes. Here are some examples:
1. When Gail was showing me how to control the weave, there were a lot of close up shots with looks and smiles and undeniable sexual tension. All that was missing were some sweet moans.
2. Every time Astarion hits on me, most of my options are to either agree, reject him but assure him that he is handsome, or reject him like he disgusts me.
3. Finally, I had a weird interaction with Halsin. After I saved him and he came to my camp, we discussed what our next steps are going to be and he agreed to join my group. Next time I talked to him, I ended up apologizing for hitting on...Eh? When the hell did I hit on him?!

So yeah, not happy with this kind of writing. In a hilarious twist, by trying to give me more options, the game actually limited my options. I imagine this can be addressed by patches.
If there was no weird societal and religious pressure almost all humans would be Bi. Kinsey interviewed MILLIONS of men and most of them fell into the Bi bit of his scale. Very few were absolutely straight or absolutely gay. Christianity and islam doesn't exist in this realm. So like the Bonobos and Chimps. Everyone is kinda sus. Why? Cuz they can be. Why not?
ULTRA Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by Power:
Originally posted by Xenon:
I have to say, I kinda hate that every single member of my team is a bisexual...

I understand why it was done that way - to give the players as many options as possible. But in doing so, the game made all these characters come off less unique. Sexuality is a part of a person's personality. It's what makes a person unique among other things. Everybody being bisexual is no less bland than everybody being straight.

What makes matters worse is that they all want to have sex with me. Raise your approval with a character high enough, and they WILL ask you to ♥♥♥ em. Some will be more direct than others, but the point is always the same.

And finally, to make it EVEN MORE worse, the game kinda made my own character bisexual, without really giving me a choice. I noticed that in multiple scenes. Here are some examples:
1. When Gail was showing me how to control the weave, there were a lot of close up shots with looks and smiles and undeniable sexual tension. All that was missing were some sweet moans.
2. Every time Astarion hits on me, most of my options are to either agree, reject him but assure him that he is handsome, or reject him like he disgusts me.
3. Finally, I had a weird interaction with Halsin. After I saved him and he came to my camp, we discussed what our next steps are going to be and he agreed to join my group. Next time I talked to him, I ended up apologizing for hitting on...Eh? When the hell did I hit on him?!

So yeah, not happy with this kind of writing. In a hilarious twist, by trying to give me more options, the game actually limited my options. I imagine this can be addressed by patches.
If there was no weird societal and religious pressure almost all humans would be Bi. Kinsey interviewed MILLIONS of men and most of them fell into the Bi bit of his scale. Very few were absolutely straight or absolutely gay. Christianity and islam doesn't exist in this realm. So like the Bonobos and Chimps. Everyone is kinda sus. Why? Cuz they can be. Why not?

There are far more oppressive religions than Christianity and Islam in this setting, lmao. Like half of them are about being as edgy and self-hating as possible.
Elrodeus Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
When you take into consideration the money and time it took to record/write these interactions I don't mind it so much. I guess in an ideal game you'd be able to select the person you're wanting to romance and keep all the other characters from barraging you with sexual invitations.

In spite of my qualms about Gale (I was just trying to be a bro with him and it got a bit... sketchy) overall once you move passed the scene Gale is a pretty legit bro. And Lae'Zel becomes a little more relatable once you see how her own tribe is treating her.

At the end of the day if Larian Studios had to choose between making all characters available to the player, or some characters not available to the player, I prefer for them to choose the former. So I can only fault them so much for giving the player more options in the game.

Still, I'd prefer if the game allowed you to signal it that you were more interested in one party member (romantically) over the other and adapted to you that way. As a straight dude, the relationships you have with straight men are very different than the relationships you have with gay/bi men and that definitely has an effect on how the relationship is perceived, so just having all characters want you in a romantic relationship definitely changes the dynamic you experience between the characters.
Power Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by ULTRA:
Originally posted by Power:
If there was no weird societal and religious pressure almost all humans would be Bi. Kinsey interviewed MILLIONS of men and most of them fell into the Bi bit of his scale. Very few were absolutely straight or absolutely gay. Christianity and islam doesn't exist in this realm. So like the Bonobos and Chimps. Everyone is kinda sus. Why? Cuz they can be. Why not?

There are far more oppressive religions than Christianity and Islam in this setting, lmao. Like half of them are about being as edgy and self-hating as possible.
Gonna need to see some evidence for that.
jerseyp19 Aug 8, 2023 @ 6:55pm 
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Originally posted by Power:
Originally posted by Xenon:
I have to say, I kinda hate that every single member of my team is a bisexual...

I understand why it was done that way - to give the players as many options as possible. But in doing so, the game made all these characters come off less unique. Sexuality is a part of a person's personality. It's what makes a person unique among other things. Everybody being bisexual is no less bland than everybody being straight.

What makes matters worse is that they all want to have sex with me. Raise your approval with a character high enough, and they WILL ask you to ♥♥♥ em. Some will be more direct than others, but the point is always the same.

And finally, to make it EVEN MORE worse, the game kinda made my own character bisexual, without really giving me a choice. I noticed that in multiple scenes. Here are some examples:
1. When Gail was showing me how to control the weave, there were a lot of close up shots with looks and smiles and undeniable sexual tension. All that was missing were some sweet moans.
2. Every time Astarion hits on me, most of my options are to either agree, reject him but assure him that he is handsome, or reject him like he disgusts me.
3. Finally, I had a weird interaction with Halsin. After I saved him and he came to my camp, we discussed what our next steps are going to be and he agreed to join my group. Next time I talked to him, I ended up apologizing for hitting on...Eh? When the hell did I hit on him?!

So yeah, not happy with this kind of writing. In a hilarious twist, by trying to give me more options, the game actually limited my options. I imagine this can be addressed by patches.
If there was no weird societal and religious pressure almost all humans would be Bi. Kinsey interviewed MILLIONS of men and most of them fell into the Bi bit of his scale. Very few were absolutely straight or absolutely gay. Christianity and islam doesn't exist in this realm. So like the Bonobos and Chimps. Everyone is kinda sus. Why? Cuz they can be. Why not?
Kinsey? LoL. That dudes work was debunked at the time it came out 70 years ago, and continually since then. His published work wasn't based on MILLIONS! of interviews; "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" was based on 5,300 interviews. His methodology was trash. He didn't use random samples. He heavily sampled from male prison populations and male prostitutes, and when you advertise that you want to interview people about taboo sexual subjects, you're going to get people that want to talk about taboo sexual subjects who respond. That's called a self selection bias, which makes the data useless for generalization. Good job basing your worldview on pseudoscience.
Power Aug 8, 2023 @ 7:00pm 
Originally posted by jerseyp19:
Originally posted by Power:
If there was no weird societal and religious pressure almost all humans would be Bi. Kinsey interviewed MILLIONS of men and most of them fell into the Bi bit of his scale. Very few were absolutely straight or absolutely gay. Christianity and islam doesn't exist in this realm. So like the Bonobos and Chimps. Everyone is kinda sus. Why? Cuz they can be. Why not?
Kinsey? LoL. That dudes work was debunked at the time it came out 70 years ago, and continually since then. His published work wasn't based on MILLIONS! of interviews; "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" was based on 5,300 interviews. His methodology was trash. He didn't use random samples. He heavily sampled from male prison populations and male prostitutes, and when you advertise that you want to interview people about taboo sexual subjects, you're going to get people that want to talk about taboo sexual subjects who respond. That's called a self selection bias, which makes the data useless for generalization. Good job basing your worldview on pseudoscience.
Ima be honest. I only watched the movie. Terrible way to get facts. After googling you are correct on the facts.

That being said it is pretty obvious that were it not for the social taboos generated by religion most people would ♥♥♥♥ who they wanted when they wanted. Hence why as organized religion is falling out with the new gens and the world is less hateful more people are deciding on the bi tag.
Last edited by Power; Aug 8, 2023 @ 7:01pm
Pan Darius Cassandra Aug 8, 2023 @ 7:07pm 
They're not "bisexual".

Playersexual is more akin to a quantum state - it collapses at the point you, the player, determine which direction it should take.

If you romance a same sex character, they are "gay".

If you romance an opposite sex character, they are "straight".

There are actually no truly bisexual characters in BG3, as a bisexual is a person who is attracted to both sexes.

But the romanceable characters in BG3 are definitelynattracted to onevsex or the other - it just happens to bevwhatever your sex is, if you choose to romance them.
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