Thieves Tools are one time use

[Hitman007]

Who is the complete moron that made the mental decision to make the Thieves Tools one time use. Is this an MMO or a what?

[Naamtar]

Thought you keep them if you're successful and they break if you're unsuccessful.

[droggen]

Not like they're hard to find Asterion is sitting on 40 or more in my game.

[Jaggid Edje]

You are supposed to not lose them unless you fail. It's working that way for me, but someone else posted that they are losing them even on successes, so there might be a bug affecting them that doesn't affect every player.

[Blood of Kerensky]

Doesn't really matter, I have over 20 on me all the time. They are everywhere and can be bought from almost every vendor.

[Eguzky]

Ah yes, because 1 set of Thieve's Tools for the entire run would be so much smarter. /s

WTF does it not being an MMO have to do with the choice in mechanic?

[VastGirth]

I only break them occasionally. I thought it was random,

[Seraphiel]

They throw the tools at you constantly. Half the time you can just smash the chests open anyway. It really doesn't matter.

[Frostfeather]

Is the confusion over the "thieves tools used" popup? It may be only saying they were used, not that they broke.

[Asgo]

yeah they are (or should be unless bugged ) a reroll "currency" if I am not mistaken. Haven't really checked if I loose them on success. overall I do have way more than I need so I would think that system generally works somewhat.

I don't think people would like the usual route of increasing DCs on retry - given how cranky people get over dialog options they didn't get to see because of a bad roll.

[Something completely different]

Originally posted by Hitman007:

Who is the complete moron that made the mental decision to make the Thieves Tools one time use. Is this an MMO or a what?

They only break when you fail the roll.

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

You are supposed to not lose them unless you fail. It's working that way for me, but someone else posted that they are losing them even on successes, so there might be a bug affecting them that doesn't affect every player.

Playing a rogue I haven't noticed this going wrong.

[Aldain]

Aren't they only supposed to be consumed on fail?

IIRC that was how they worked in EA.

[Gregorovitch]

If you roll a lock successfully you keep the tools. If you fail you lose the tools, they break. You can repeat a lock if you fail. you just use a fresh set of tools. You can also just back out of the attempt and keep your tools if you don't like the odds.

So if you are greedy or you haven't got a good rogue you will break a lot of tools. If you do have a good thief and you don't try to pick locks that are too hard for you then you will find/loot thieves tools faster than you break 'em.

[zero]

Originally posted by Naamtar:

Thought you keep them if you're successful and they break if you're unsuccessful.

correct, thats how mine are working and how it was explained via tutorial.

if yours are disappearing on a pass, you are bugged.

[Mathias Giovanni]

Originally posted by VastGirth:

I only break them occasionally. I thought it was random,

I believe they only break if you fail the attempt.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Been playing on Tactician, and honestly I thought this was just a feature for that difficulty. I am consuming them on successes as well as failures.