Raphael (act 3 deal) Spoilers!

[Nemesis]

This is big spoilers so don't read this thread...


I just did the deal with the devil, but I was under the impresson that he would remove the tadpole?
Now after I signed the contract the emperor still speaks to me and I still seem to be infected (can "eat" the parasite to get powers).
Is this a plothole or something because the deal seem to only be that I got the hammer and he will get the crown but why would anyone sign a deal like this?

[EridianX]

He never offers to take the tadpole in that deal. In that deal he specifically says the hammer now for the crown later. This is why you read the fine print with devils.

[Soft Lockpick]

You mean you got tricked by a devil? Who could have predicted this sudden but inevitable betrayal?

[clampp]

You should have used a longer spoon...

[Carnasid]

"Why would anyone sign a deal like this deal I just signed?! How stupid would they have to possibly be?!"

[Nemesis]

FYI, I did sign it after I found out you can break it :p

He talks about getting rid of the parasite but in the game the MAIN thing why he wants to make a deal at the start, so why did he not just do it when you sign the contract.
Feels like a plothole.

[Parteculos]

So you accepted a deal without understanding its terms. Raphael is more than happy with that.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Parteculos:

So you accepted a deal without understanding its terms. Raphael is more than happy with that.

OP is his favorite kind of client no doubt

[dustin1280]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

FYI, I did sign it after I found out you can break it :p

He talks about getting rid of the parasite but in the game the MAIN thing why he wants to make a deal at the start, so why did he not just do it when you sign the contract.
Feels like a plothole.

It's not a plothole at all...

Devils are in fact KNOWN for tricky misleading contracts... Him talking about the tadpole constantly did exactly what he meant it to.

It got you to sign his contract and his CONTRACT was only trading the crown for the hammer.

This is not a plothole, you got tricked by the devil, exactly as he intended.

[RobinInSeoul]

Originally posted by Soft Lockpick:

You mean you got tricked by a devil? Who could have predicted this sudden but inevitable betrayal?

Ah ha ha! mine is an evil laugh!

[Poptart]

Originally posted by dustin1280:

Originally posted by Nemesis:

FYI, I did sign it after I found out you can break it :p

He talks about getting rid of the parasite but in the game the MAIN thing why he wants to make a deal at the start, so why did he not just do it when you sign the contract.
Feels like a plothole.

It's not a plothole at all...

Devils are in fact KNOWN for tricky misleading contracts... Him talking about the tadpole constantly did exactly what he meant it to.

It got you to sign his contract and his CONTRACT was only trading the crown for the hammer.

This is not a plothole, you got tricked by the devil, exactly as he intended.

Essentially this. It's a potential story beat in Wyll's origin/companion situation fairly early on in fact.

[MakeshiftRiot]

I signed it because I wanted the hammer, but what he didn't count on was me breaking the deal and beating him to death with said hammer and getting some other decent items along the way. Also that armor... :D

[Sardorim]

He tricked you. He never had that power to begin with.

[Calculus]

Originally posted by Parteculos:

So you accepted a deal without understanding its terms. Raphael is more than happy with that.

"If i knew you were so gulliable i would offer to give you a handful of peas for your soul"
Or something like that

[Foxador]

He never once offers to remove the tadpole during his talk in Act3, he lays out the terms of the deal *very* clearly in fact. You get the hammer now, he gets the hammer later. He'll also keep your contract "safe" in the house of hope

Not once does he say that he'll remove the tadpole in that conversation, only that he's muting it for their chat so the dream visitor can't listen in

[rumpelstiltskin]

apparently it was cut (along with many other things)

Raphael the Merchant – Originally Raphael was meant to be a fully viable option to remove your tadpole, in fact the “Soul Coin” items that you collect in game where originally meant to be a powerful alternative currency accepted only by Raphael in exchange for possibly retrieving your soul as well as a long list of incredibly powerful artifacts from the House of Hope that would be sold by Raphael himself.