Just make everyone a fighter w/ 1 healer?

[bob]

I'm in act 3 and my figthers can do like 6 hits per turn with their greatswords. Pretty much just braindead me thru the game
Whereas my mage has been completely useless throughout the game. Missing their critical skills, when needed.

Is this DnD? Or am I missing something?

[Veg]

Why fighter lol? Literally every class can do its job better

[doublejesus]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dre G Writer:

damn 6 attacks!? I thought my lvl8 paladin 3 attacks was pretty bonkers, 6 is over kill.
I WANT IT!!

They're acting like action surge can be used more than once a battle. Fighters are known to have the highest burst that falls off, paladins have more sustained burst till they run out of smite's and barbarians have sustained high damage but not nearly as much 1 turn kill potential. However barbs are the best great weapon master enjoyers because they can advantage every attack which also means they get more chances to crit. Also you easily get that many attacks at lvl 8 my barbarian just needs to be hasted, raged and be using a bloodlust potion as long as she lands a killing blow great weapon master will allow an attack using the bonus action and the bloodlust elixer will grant another free attack. Pair that with the 3 attacks from a hasted level 8 barbarian and bobs your uncle 6 attacks every round no action surge needed as long as there's bodies to put in the dirt there's attacks to be had.

[krunjar]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Loquitran:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Verenti:

Nah, a fighter can go toe-to-toe with pretty much anyone, but a properly spec'd mage can nuke encounters. Everyone is OP in 5E. Not Rangers though, they kinda suck.

Really? That gloom whatever ranger seems kinda sweet though. I didn't played as a ranger yet, I just respec'd my character to ranger to see how a higher level ranger looked like.

Nothing in ranger is actively bad. It's just that their best class features are easily obtained or exceeded elsewhere. A fighter with a bow is a better archer. And a druid is a better caster. They just don't really bring anything unique to the table and the opportunity loss cost against classes that do is rather high.

[Dre G Writer]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย doublejesus:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dre G Writer:

damn 6 attacks!? I thought my lvl8 paladin 3 attacks was pretty bonkers, 6 is over kill.
I WANT IT!!

They're acting like action surge can be used more than once a battle. Fighters are known to have the highest burst that falls off, paladins have more sustained burst till they run out of smite's and barbarians have sustained high damage but not nearly as much 1 turn kill potential. However barbs are the best great weapon master enjoyers because they can advantage every attack which also means they get more chances to crit. Also you easily get that many attacks at lvl 8 my barbarian just needs to be hasted, raged and be using a bloodlust potion as long as she lands a killing blow great weapon master will allow an attack using the bonus action and the bloodlust elixer will grant another free attack. Pair that with the 3 attacks from a hasted level 8 barbarian and bobs your uncle 6 attacks every round no action surge needed as long as there's bodies to put in the dirt there's attacks to be had.

Damn, that sounds amazing, i was thinking about multiclassing my paladin with barbarian too.

" paladins have more sustained burst till they run out of smite's"
My guy you aint lying about that. The whole party getting a long rest if my paladin runs out of spell slots. Dont care if everyeone else slots are full, WE RESTIN!!

These smites are friggin ridiculous. Divine smite, even if I miss, it doesnt use a spell so i can just cast it again.

And i found out just how stupid the savage attack feat is with divine smite. It seems both the regular and divine dice rolls get advantage rolls so im seeing like a white 20 damage and a yellow 20 damage value popp out of enemies and the enemy just disintegrate immediately when they had a whole @SS bar of health.

Im like got, DAMN!

[AH-1 Cobra]

I definitely prefer 2e over 5e. I call 5e the boobus americanus edition.

[krunjar]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dre G Writer:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย doublejesus:

They're acting like action surge can be used more than once a battle. Fighters are known to have the highest burst that falls off, paladins have more sustained burst till they run out of smite's and barbarians have sustained high damage but not nearly as much 1 turn kill potential. However barbs are the best great weapon master enjoyers because they can advantage every attack which also means they get more chances to crit. Also you easily get that many attacks at lvl 8 my barbarian just needs to be hasted, raged and be using a bloodlust potion as long as she lands a killing blow great weapon master will allow an attack using the bonus action and the bloodlust elixer will grant another free attack. Pair that with the 3 attacks from a hasted level 8 barbarian and bobs your uncle 6 attacks every round no action surge needed as long as there's bodies to put in the dirt there's attacks to be had.

Damn, that sounds amazing, i was thinking about multiclassing my paladin with barbarian too.

" paladins have more sustained burst till they run out of smite's"
My guy you aint lying about that. The whole party getting a long rest if my paladin runs out of spell slots. Dont care if everyeone else slots are full, WE RESTIN!!

These smites are friggin ridiculous. Divine smite, even if I miss, it doesnt use a spell so i can just cast it again.

And i found out just how stupid the savage attack feat is with divine smite. It seems both the regular and divine dice rolls get advantage rolls so im seeing like a white 20 damage and a yellow 20 damage value popp out of enemies and the enemy just disintegrate immediately when they had a whole @SS bar of health.

Im like got, DAMN!

Sir Conan of Roidonia what is best in life?

To smite my enemy! See them driven before me! And hear the lamentation of the heretics! XD

[Doc_Mercy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย bob:

I'm in act 3 and my figthers can do like 6 hits per turn with their greatswords. Pretty much just braindead me thru the game
Whereas my mage has been completely useless throughout the game. Missing their critical skills, when needed.

Is this DnD? Or am I missing something?

Yeah, basically. The dnd inspired games generally have utility classes and fighting classes. Obviously you can do either with every class, but the extent varies wildly.
As you pointed out fighters excel at, well, fighting. It's literally in the name. Mages on the other hand excel at utility. Illusion spells, dialogues, and exploration. Given the chance they can ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ up too, but are much more limited to short bursts of slaughter than fighters who are basically always good for a fight as long as their HP isn't 0.

[BigRockWall]

Bard gets 2nd attack at level 6 on 2 of the 3 subclasses. Sorc can twin haste at level 5. You have 1 more level to put into whatever you want for a full 11 levels of pure spellcaster with twincast haste and extra attack. Self buffed 4 attacks per round, 5 with pommel strike or a crit/kill. People just lack creativity sometimes when they see HULK SMASH as the easy way out.

Or Warlock 5 / sorc 5 / tempest cleric 2. Ditto extra attack and dual haste.

[Eren Jäger]

A balanced group is always better in my opinion. 2 fighters a mage and an assassin. There are very strong spells. To do without them completely would be more of a handicap

[Loquitran]

My main group was:

My character as a warlock, Astarion as an assassin, Lae'zel as a battle master, Karlach as a berserker.

Then I got access to Jaheira and Halsin became a active companion, so I'm rolling with 2 druids for now, druids are pretty damn strong in 5e huh

[krunjar]

Druids are pretty gud. But clerics can be insane if you spec them right. They both do the job good but if I was optimising a party I'd take cleric over druid.

[Kozzy]

Monk and Barb >>>> Fighter

[Loquitran]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย krunjar:

Druids are pretty gud. But clerics can be insane if you spec them right. They both do the job good but if I was optimising a party I'd take cleric over druid.

I don't want to spoil since I don't know where you are in the game but, let's just say that I can't use Shadowheart right now. I could respec someone else to a cleric, but for my first playthrough, I want to keep them in their original class.