Sorceror is under powered needs some buffs

[Sephiroth]

(no ANIMATED DEAD? FOR SORCEROR WOW) <--- BACKWARDS BS

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Meta magic is to weak though.

Also a Wizard still gains Arcane points.

So both classes have the same amount of spells normally.
then you add that they both have a resource to replenish some spells. Keeps them close to equal still.

Now we come down to the important thing.
The wizard can use every spell and change them around all day to suite his needs where as a sorceror cannot he is stuck with FEWER spells known and also UNABLE TO INTERCHANGE SPELLS ALL DAY OR AT ALL UNTIL HE LEVELS UP WHICH THEN HE CAN ONLY DO 1 SPELL.

Meta magic simply is not strong enough of a mechanic to make up for the gigantic weakeness.

I am at level 4 and close to 5. But I still can only shoot 2 spells in 1 round ONE TIME ALL DAY.

its simply WEAK.

Now if they reduced the point cost down to 2 at least I would be able to do it twice per turn.


Using quicken means I lose 3 level 1 spells... to cast.... so again..

At the end of all this regardless the sorceror is just a weak class and they should fix it by possibly reducing the sorceror cost of metamagic and also adding some more castings per day to their "base amount of spells they can cast"

They are naturally supposed to sling more spells than a wizard so make it more natural it should not even require metamagic to increase the number of spells you can cast

[krunjar]

Sorcerers had more spells before they had METAMAGIC. Metamagic is huge. Sorcerer isn't a sling spells all day boi anymore. His schtick is .. I don't have as much variety as a wizard. But the spells I DO know I know like the back of my hand. And I can make them sit, beg play fetch and sing sweet home alabama!

You're probably thinking of og bg sorcerer which was a couple of editions ago I think. Wasn't bg 1 + 2 3e?

[6h0$t942]

Pure casters in general traditionally suck early.

[Metadragon]

Originally posted by krunjar:

Sorcerers had more spells before they had METAMAGIC. Metamagic is huge. Sorcerer isn't a sling spells all day boi anymore. His schtick is .. I don't have as much variety as a wizard. But the spells I DO know I know like the back of my hand. And I can make them sit, beg play fetch and sing sweet home alabama!

You're probably thinking of og bg sorcerer which was a couple of editions ago I think. Wasn't bg 1 + 2 3e?

No BG1 was AD&D. Thats 2nd edition.

[BarcaS]

Originally posted by krunjar:

Sorcerers had more spells before they had METAMAGIC. Metamagic is huge. Sorcerer isn't a sling spells all day boi anymore. His schtick is .. I don't have as much variety as a wizard. But the spells I DO know I know like the back of my hand. And I can make them sit, beg play fetch and sing sweet home alabama!

You're probably thinking of og bg sorcerer which was a couple of editions ago I think. Wasn't bg 1 + 2 3e?

BG1/2 AD&D 2nd edition rules

[2LambBuna]

Originally posted by 6h0$t942:

Pure casters in general traditionally suck early.

bards and warlocks are very strong at level 1

[Metadragon]

Originally posted by 6h0$t942:

Pure casters in general traditionally suck early.

My sorcerer started with 20 AC. And with that you can whittle things down with cantrips until metamagic is unlocked.

[The Biggest Fish]

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Someone doesnt know how to play their sorcerer. I'm playing a red dragonborn, draconic ancestry sorcerer and he slaps hard.

[damian2472005]

dunno what ya do but my mage is a weapon of mass destruction. magic missl fireball lightning and blizzard is all i need. i know there are more fance spells but they do the job very well.

[Quadsword]

Originally posted by The Biggest Fish:

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Someone doesnt know how to play their sorcerer. I'm playing a red dragonborn, draconic ancestry sorcerer and he slaps hard.

I'm playing the exact same race, subrace, and subclass for my character and it does indeed slap hard. Nothing quite like melting a big boss enemy with multiple scorching rays, or decimating a pack of bunched up enemies with a twinned ice knife.

[Dre G Writer]

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Originally posted by ᛊᚨᛁᛚᛟᚱ ᛗᛟᛟᚾ:

Sorceror is the worst class in the game.

The shear amount of foolish-ness and ignorance in these comments.

SMH

They have NO idea how to play sorcerer.

- You can cast spells at a 50% longer range.
- Turn single target spells into multi-target spells.
- Cast two spells in a single turn.
- Cast more spells since they can get more spell cast slots.
- Has a sub class that allows them to fly to a whole different location after each cast of a spell, negating any reaction attacks and get to high ground wihtout spending any movement points.
- Has a sub class that can make the spell caster a tank with stupidly high AC, and
- Their spells scale off CHR which has very high out of combat utility.

[Veg]

These bastards are allowed to cast two leveled spells in Bg3 and they like "Im not strong enough"

[krunjar]

Originally posted by Metadragon: Destroyer of Hope:

Originally posted by krunjar:

Sorcerers had more spells before they had METAMAGIC. Metamagic is huge. Sorcerer isn't a sling spells all day boi anymore. His schtick is .. I don't have as much variety as a wizard. But the spells I DO know I know like the back of my hand. And I can make them sit, beg play fetch and sing sweet home alabama!

You're probably thinking of og bg sorcerer which was a couple of editions ago I think. Wasn't bg 1 + 2 3e?

No BG1 was AD&D. Thats 2nd edition.

Originally posted by BarcaS:

Originally posted by krunjar:

Sorcerers had more spells before they had METAMAGIC. Metamagic is huge. Sorcerer isn't a sling spells all day boi anymore. His schtick is .. I don't have as much variety as a wizard. But the spells I DO know I know like the back of my hand. And I can make them sit, beg play fetch and sing sweet home alabama!

You're probably thinking of og bg sorcerer which was a couple of editions ago I think. Wasn't bg 1 + 2 3e?

BG1/2 AD&D 2nd edition rules

K :) My bad! Regardless. That kind of sorcerer went the way of the dodo.

[Gønzö]

Originally posted by ᛊᚨᛁᛚᛟᚱ ᛗᛟᛟᚾ:

Sorceror is the worst class in the game.

You just awarded yourself another laughing award in an entirely different thread. Yikes!

[0k]

Originally posted by krunjar:

You're probably thinking of og bg sorcerer which was a couple of editions ago I think. Wasn't bg 1 + 2 3e?

You couldn't play Sorcerer in the original version of Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, that was a Beamdog addition in the Enhanced Editions. The class didn't exist in AD&D.

Some 3rd Edition rules made it into Baldur's Gate 2 Throne of Bhaal though, I think HLAs and some spells in particular. Icewind Dale II incorporated more of 3E as well.

Neverwinter Nights on the other hand was 3E while Neverwinter NIghts 2 used 3.5.

[krunjar]

Originally posted by 0k:

Originally posted by krunjar:

You're probably thinking of og bg sorcerer which was a couple of editions ago I think. Wasn't bg 1 + 2 3e?

You couldn't play Sorcerer in the original version of Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, that was a Beamdog addition in the Enhanced Editions. The class didn't exist in AD&D.

Some 3rd Edition rules made it into Baldur's Gate 2 Throne of Bhaal though, I think HLAs and some spells in particular. Icewind Dale II incorporated more of 3E as well.

Neverwinter Nights on the other hand was 3E while Neverwinter NIghts 2 used 3.5.

Funny I was pretty sure that I played a sorc for the first time in throne of bhaal. I might be wrong though. Maybe it was neverwinter nights? It's been a long time. I was still replacing all my portraits with anime fanart because i thought it was cool back then XD.

God .. I was so cringe.