Sorceror is under powered needs some buffs

[Sephiroth]

(no ANIMATED DEAD? FOR SORCEROR WOW) <--- BACKWARDS BS

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Meta magic is to weak though.

Also a Wizard still gains Arcane points.

So both classes have the same amount of spells normally.
then you add that they both have a resource to replenish some spells. Keeps them close to equal still.

Now we come down to the important thing.
The wizard can use every spell and change them around all day to suite his needs where as a sorceror cannot he is stuck with FEWER spells known and also UNABLE TO INTERCHANGE SPELLS ALL DAY OR AT ALL UNTIL HE LEVELS UP WHICH THEN HE CAN ONLY DO 1 SPELL.

Meta magic simply is not strong enough of a mechanic to make up for the gigantic weakeness.

I am at level 4 and close to 5. But I still can only shoot 2 spells in 1 round ONE TIME ALL DAY.

its simply WEAK.

Now if they reduced the point cost down to 2 at least I would be able to do it twice per turn.


Using quicken means I lose 3 level 1 spells... to cast.... so again..

At the end of all this regardless the sorceror is just a weak class and they should fix it by possibly reducing the sorceror cost of metamagic and also adding some more castings per day to their "base amount of spells they can cast"

They are naturally supposed to sling more spells than a wizard so make it more natural it should not even require metamagic to increase the number of spells you can cast

[Myth Alric]

You can use your sorcerer power points to increase your number of spells.

[Erikkustrife]

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Sorc and wizard differences change every single iteration of the 2 classes.
The only thing that gennerally doesnt is wizard is perpared and sorc isnt but in this since you can change spells anytime outside of combat I dont see a reason to go sorc. Maybe the subclasses for sorc are amazing? The lighting one seems rather funny.

[Broan]

You do realize the main Thing on the Sorcerer? Meta Magic?
You can literally cast Spells twice in a Round and gain Spell Slots with Sorcery Points?
If you missed that, i do understand why it feels underwhelming. But Sorcerers are extremely powerful. They are in no means underpowered and absolutely no "imbalanced mess"

[Settings]

Sorceror is the worst class in the game.

[Broan]

Originally posted by ᛊᚨᛁᛚᛟᚱ ᛗᛟᛟᚾ:

Sorceror is the worst class in the game.

That's BS and if you don't understand that its BS you should spend a few minutes understanding Sorcerer.

[Soft Lockpick]

Originally posted by Erikkustrife:

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Sorc and wizard differences change every single iteration of the 2 classes.
The only thing that gennerally doesnt is wizard is perpared and sorc isnt but in this since you can change spells anytime outside of combat I dont see a reason to go sorc. Maybe the subclasses for sorc are amazing? The lighting one seems rather funny.

Actions are why.

You can twin spells, quicken spells. Sorcerer is bursts of crazy things. If you absolutely need it dead this round Sorc is what you roll.

Video games always favor sorcerer because the spells on offer are limited.

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by ᛊᚨᛁᛚᛟᚱ ᛗᛟᛟᚾ:

Sorceror is the worst class in the game.

Clearly you and op have no idea how to play sorcerer. I will quote 2 posts that laid it out.

Originally posted by Broan der Rentner:

You do realize the main Thing on the Sorcerer? Meta Magic?
You can literally cast Spells twice in a Round and gain Spell Slots with Sorcery Points?
If you missed that, i do understand why it feels underwhelming. But Sorcerers are extremely powerful. They are in no means underpowered and absolutely no "imbalanced mess"

[2LambBuna]

sorcs can do huge spike damage with meta magic that wizards cant. they also have the advantage that their main stat makes them great for the all important face skills. they are one of the more complicated classes to play though along with druid and monk

[2LambBuna]

Originally posted by ᛊᚨᛁᛚᛟᚱ ᛗᛟᛟᚾ:

Sorceror is the worst class in the game.

in 5thED Ranger and Monk are considered the weakest classes, thats why larian buffed them for BG3

[BarcaS]

I am not sure I understand.

Sorcerer (spell list):

Level 1 - 20
Level 2 - 24
Level 3 - 20
Level 4 - 10
Level 5 - 11

Wizard (spell list):

Level 1 - 30
Level 2 - 34
Level 3 - 29
Level 4 - 23
Level 5 - 23

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At level 10:

Sorcerer (slots per level): 4/3/3/3/2
Wizard (slots per level): 4/3/3/3/2

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So, what do you mean by the "ton of spells"?

[Soul]

sorcerers are like strategic bombers, wizards are like a swiss army knife.

[Wiegs]

I just rescued Scratch the dog and followed it here, but i think he sniffed a skill issue

[Metadragon]

Originally posted by Erikkustrife:

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

That is all I am saying. This does not feel like a sorceror who can sling spells all day.

Instead he has just as many spells as a wizard.... which is backwards.

Sorcerors are supposed to have a ton of spells at the cost of less spells known.

Wizard has the same amount of spells to sling as a sorceror in this game PLUS the added benefit of mixing and matching ALL SPELLS.

What a completely imbalanced mess.

Really feels like an unfinished game.

Sorc and wizard differences change every single iteration of the 2 classes.
The only thing that gennerally doesnt is wizard is perpared and sorc isnt but in this since you can change spells anytime outside of combat I dont see a reason to go sorc. Maybe the subclasses for sorc are amazing? The lighting one seems rather funny.

Draconic Bloodline is super strong. +3 AC when unarmored. You can make a dex built Sorcerer that starts the game with 16 AC +2 for any shield spell, and tusing a shield gives you another +2. You can have a completely naked (except shield) sorcerer at level 1 with 20 AC...

Combining just two levels in warlock and you can get 4 actions a turn when you learn haste and quickened metamagic. And all those will do +3 damage cause of Agonizing from warlock.

In two rounds of combat you are doing a minimum of 32 up to like 128 damage at level 12.

Sorlock is broken. Wizard is pretty weak by comparison and they lose out on all those juicy charisma rolls during conversation.

[Overeagerdragon]

When to Wizard:
* I wanna know/learn all da spells
* I want maximum diversity and am willing to "sleep on it"
* I wanna be smart and know everything about everything (especially history and magic)

When to Sorc
* I want to do Crazy damage even if that means I have a little less diversity
* I want to be able to be a more efficient spellcaster
* I want to be a popular guy/gal (or threaten people into saying I am)

When not to mage
*I wanna hit stuff with pokey things

[Quadsword]

You absolutely are not playing sorcerer right if you say this. One word: Metamagic. It turns sorcerer into one of the best burst damage classes in the game. Even the tankiest enemies have trouble withstanding two scorching rays in one turn. You can also convert sorcery points into spell slots and spell slots into sorcery points, depending on what the situation warrants.

Oh, and it's a charisma based class which makes it perfect for dialogue checks.