Co-op drop-in and drop-out

[Gaia]

So I lost the original thread where people were talking about how if someone, friend or otherwise joins into your game and makes a custom character, that character is stuck in your party indefinitely. People were making arguments on both sides about why that is. However I wanted to play with my friend and I didn't want to create a custom character because I didn't want to mess up their party. I come to find out, I can't even join their game as an Origin character. They're locked on the "character creation" screen saying I can't pick them during a running session. So we tried to figure out if there was a way I could join before they started the game and we have came up unsuccessful. So does anyone know how to play as an Origin character in an already started campaign? Because if you can't, I'm inclined to agree with the people arguing against the current system, not letting us drop-in/drop-out. Because if you play with a group of 4 friends you're screwed out of any companion NPC involvement. People were saying "Well just make a new game". Listen, if you played Divinity, you know how much game that is. I'm sure BG3 is even more chonky of a game. I'm sure people and friends don't want to start a new game every time a new buddy wants to just tag along for a few hours.

[Gaia]

Nobody?

[DeportedFetus]

Have them play the origin characters

[Gaia]

Originally posted by DeportedFetus:

Have them play the origin characters

Ah, I see you failed your Intelligence check. I said we cannot pick Origin characters in the campaign that has already started. Unless there is some super convoluted way to do that.
You can't even join the game without creating a character yourself. Which is what we're trying to avoid. Hence the issue.

[DaddyStreetMeat]

it chaps my ass this isn't a bigger issue with the community, man i just wanna be able to play with my squad when i can

[Feuver]

The devs are already aware of this issue. Nothing to do now but to wait until they fix it.

[Gaia]

Originally posted by DaddyStreetMeat:

it chaps my ass this isn't a bigger issue with the community, man i just wanna be able to play with my squad when i can

People are saying "This is how it's always been in EA deal with it". Yeah except EA didn't have 800k people all buying the game at once to play with possible friends. And DOS2 had drop in/drop out with a player being able to play as an NPC seamlessly. So why go backwards?

[ULTRA]

The infernal calculus here is that even if a million people care about basic co-op quality of life features like voice or text chat, drop-in/out multiplayer, or group NPC interactions, there are 4 million people that will pay $60 regardless and never think about it, and a couple thousand people on the forums who will act like they're still in therapy from a time they played a co-op game and how dare you suggest that a feature be implemented well in this 10/10 game?

[Feuver]

Originally posted by ULTRA:

The infernal calculus here is that even if a million people care about basic co-op quality of life features like voice or text chat, drop-in/out multiplayer, or group NPC interactions, there are 4 million people that will pay $60 regardless and never think about it, and a couple thousand people on the forums who will act like they're still in therapy from a time they played a co-op game and how dare you suggest that a feature be implemented well in this 10/10 game?

OR you know, how dare you expect something to be fixed/patched when it's clearly not working as intended immediately?

Yall think this is just a few lines of code left right and then blam all fixed. They have a massive game, any changes to the party system might cause major ♥♥♥♥ ups and breaks. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ be patient and chill. You can have a game with your friend that you can boot when you play with your friends, and you can have your SP experience when you don't.

[Absolut1l]

Originally posted by Feuver:

Originally posted by ULTRA:

The infernal calculus here is that even if a million people care about basic co-op quality of life features like voice or text chat, drop-in/out multiplayer, or group NPC interactions, there are 4 million people that will pay $60 regardless and never think about it, and a couple thousand people on the forums who will act like they're still in therapy from a time they played a co-op game and how dare you suggest that a feature be implemented well in this 10/10 game?

OR you know, how dare you expect something to be fixed/patched when it's clearly not working as intended immediately?

Yall think this is just a few lines of code left right and then blam all fixed. They have a massive game, any changes to the party system might cause major ♥♥♥♥ ups and breaks. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ be patient and chill. You can have a game with your friend that you can boot when you play with your friends, and you can have your SP experience when you don't.

Exactly this. The level of entitlement and rage in the gamer community is ridiculous. I'm nearing my 40's and been playing heavy since the early 90's. It's mind-boggling how much more complex modern games can be than the stuff we played back then. It takes a lot of very talented people with a myriad of different skillsets to produce any big game let alone one that is as good as BG3. That said, the vocal minority is what we hear/see and the motivation to post about things online is usually driven heavily my what people are upset about rather than what they are happy about. If a game is just excellent you might leave a review and that's it. Most people aren't going to go in and make a list of the 20,000 things they love. But when someone is real upset about something they will go online and cry about it till the cows come home. The more constructive way or resolving issues is leaving feedback through official channels to the developers themselves because that is a big part of what they look at when they work on patching things. And of all the devs out there, Larian is one of the best at being receptive to feedback and actually making changes. I mean, just look at BG3 EA - they changed and implemented so, so much based off of all the feedback they got in EA. But alas, everyone is never going to be happy. No matter how pristine a game is there will always be some people who are particularly triggered by something and they are most likely going to be the most vocal. BG3 is so good though that the praise completely overshadows the criticism.

[Mr.Hmm]

Originally posted by Gaia:

So I lost the original thread where people were talking about how if someone, friend or otherwise joins into your game and makes a custom character, that character is stuck in your party indefinitely. People were making arguments on both sides about why that is. However I wanted to play with my friend and I didn't want to create a custom character because I didn't want to mess up their party. I come to find out, I can't even join their game as an Origin character. They're locked on the "character creation" screen saying I can't pick them during a running session. So we tried to figure out if there was a way I could join before they started the game and we have came up unsuccessful. So does anyone know how to play as an Origin character in an already started campaign? Because if you can't, I'm inclined to agree with the people arguing against the current system, not letting us drop-in/drop-out. Because if you play with a group of 4 friends you're screwed out of any companion NPC involvement. People were saying "Well just make a new game". Listen, if you played Divinity, you know how much game that is. I'm sure BG3 is even more chonky of a game. I'm sure people and friends don't want to start a new game every time a new buddy wants to just tag along for a few hours.

Did your friend try giving control of said origin character in his session to you?, from my knowledge my friend had to give me control of Shadowheart in order to control her and my character(custom character) while he controlled Lae'zel.