Karmic Dice On or Off?

[Gisborne]

It's strange how its on by defauly which puts me off turning it off now, but it seems a bit cheaty? like IRL or playing other board games dice are pure random, what do you do?

[robert.steven.marshall]

I'm a little annoyed that I didn't know this was a thing and so I think I'm going to turn it off now

[sarah]

With the karmic on...the die just seems to roll under 10 for about 80-90 percent of the time when I had to do a roll.

[LeftPaw]

On and ON. Flipping heck my game went straight down the bog after turning these dice off. I was losing every role by millions. it fell into the role of giving me the lowest possible score every time.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by LeftPaw:

On and ON. Flipping heck my game went straight down the bog after turning these dice off. I was losing every role by millions. it fell into the role of giving me the lowest possible score every time.

Something about it being on just feels wrong tho...

[Captain Flappy]

Originally posted by robert.steven.marshall:

I'm a little annoyed that I didn't know this was a thing and so I think I'm going to turn it off now

i didn't know it was a thing until this post tbh...

[ayrtep]

No always off, unless you want to toggle it on and off to improve results. So toggle it off after a run of good throws, toggle on after a run of bad throws.

[SmashingQuasar]

If you play on Tactician, having the Karmic Dice on will make the game significantly harder.
This is because enemies already have a +2 on every roll they do, which means by increasing their lower average you will effectively make them do more damage to you.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by SmashingQuasar:

If you play on Tactician, having the Karmic Dice on will make the game significantly harder.
This is because enemies already have a +2 on every roll they do, which means by increasing their lower average you will effectively make them do more damage to you.

Well guess whay I've been playing on xD I can't go to normal tho as I want the achievement lol

[SmashingQuasar]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by SmashingQuasar:

If you play on Tactician, having the Karmic Dice on will make the game significantly harder.
This is because enemies already have a +2 on every roll they do, which means by increasing their lower average you will effectively make them do more damage to you.

Well guess whay I've been playing on xD I can't go to normal tho as I want the achievement lol

Yeah just turn off Karmic Dice and you'll see that not every single action of enemies connect any longer. They still cheat, but less.

[Somulo]

its not working btw - people test it

you can have pseudo random - enemies crit 3 times in a row

and you crit 3 times in the row

on or off doesnt matter

change maybe dialgue events - then you got a lot of low numbers of dice

so really dont mention it

play with or without really dont change game mechanic overall

also save scamming is still in action, and you dont have "iron man" option anyway

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Rather infamously in Firaxis X-Com there were people convinced the RNG was broken and screwing them over. Eventually, they peered into the code, and realized that not only was the RNG perfectly functional but that it had a 'Karmic Dice'-like function built in to break losing streaks for the players.

The fact is that any well made RNG will be streaky, you'll get terrible losing streaks and insane winning streaks. But because human brains are wired incorrectly, people only remember the losing streaks and start viewing them as personal persecution.

[Toffe]

Off

[BrendanDH]

I experimented with both and came to dislike Karmic dice. I found that if I got 2 or 3 mid to high teen rolls I'd almost guarantee to get a 1-3 afterwards so there would generally be big swings which I didn't enjoy.

I have also been known to save scum at times and if I get a low roll and try to reroll it would always reroll a low one.

[SmashingQuasar]

Originally posted by TheDeadlyShoe:

Rather infamously in Firaxis X-Com there were people convinced the RNG was broken and screwing them over. Eventually, they peered into the code, and realized that not only was the RNG perfectly functional but that it had a 'Karmic Dice'-like function built in to break losing streaks for the players.

The fact is that any well made RNG will be streaky, you'll get terrible losing streaks and insane winning streaks. But because human brains are wired incorrectly, people only remember the losing streaks and start viewing them as personal persecution.

Well, actually I explained why Karmic Dice will mathematically make the game harder in Tactician so there is no bias here. On Classic it should make the game more balanced and less random and on Explorer it will make it even easier.

[ayrtep]

Originally posted by TheDeadlyShoe:

Eventually, they peered into the code, and realized that not only was the RNG perfectly functional but that it had a 'Karmic Dice'-like function built in to break losing streaks for the players.

Don't these two contradict. If it has karmic dice features then the RNG is not perfect.