Felogyr's FIreworks: Is it a mandatory fight?

[Amateur Nitpicker]

Is there a NON-combat way. I mean I can but I dont like fighting where there are witnesses in the city?

[PrincePapa]

Mage hand can actually kill both the bottom and higher floor using the explosives available to cause chain reactions. Should there be stragglers, finishing them from the middle floor up/in one turn has kept the guards outside passive for me.

It's still not an ideal solution. It's kinda weird to simply walk in there and kill everyone, feels like a step's missing.

[Holy]

I wonder the same.. As a paladin you get outbreaker if you kill them. But I can't find any other way.. I managed to pickpocket the note from the dude upstairs, but that did nothing.

[Osaka from Azumanga Daioh]

there's orange note in a pocket of one npc on top floor, you probably can stealth+pickpocket it

[Stigma]

Originally posted by Black Templar:

there's orange note in a pocket of one npc on top floor, you probably can stealth+pickpocket it

Did that, quest step still tells me to kill the banites

[ExplodeySquirrel]

The chemysts on the top floor give a the hint on how to avoid combat, specifically that it doesn't involve the pipes or disabling their machinery.

(minor exploration spoilers)
How to trigger a fireworks factory "accident":
- A hidden lever behind the crates in the basement leads to a cache of runepowder barrels
- Scatter the barrels and firework crates to chain together all the explosives in the building. Keep in mind that display cases are not flammable, only the full firework crates
- You can open the doors on each floor to create a clean line of sight to the roof of the building across the road, which is accessible via a balcony or mobility spells
- Now just launch a firework through the open crane bay or lower floor doors to commence the "accident" show! There should be no survivors if every armored guard has at least 2 explosives next to them (due to high health)

I don't think there's a peaceful solution, but the hinted approach doesn't involve combat or get you arrested by the city guard.

[カミナ]

Originally posted by ExplodeySquirrel:

The chemysts on the top floor give a the hint on how to avoid combat, specifically that it doesn't involve the pipes or disabling their machinery.

(minor exploration spoilers)
How to trigger a fireworks factory "accident":
- A hidden lever behind the crates in the basement leads to a cache of runepowder barrels
- Scatter the barrels and firework crates to chain together all the explosives in the building. Keep in mind that display cases are not flammable, only the full firework crates
- You can open the doors on each floor to create a clean line of sight to the roof of the building across the road, which is accessible via a balcony or mobility spells
- Now just launch a firework through the open crane bay or lower floor doors to commence the "accident" show! There should be no survivors if every armored guard has at least 2 explosives next to them (due to high health)

I don't think there's a peaceful solution, but the hinted approach doesn't involve combat or get you arrested by the city guard.

I dont understand how you did this. They dont do enough damage and how do I sneak all the explosives to the top when theyre immediately hostile getting up there?

[Brucius]

Killing everyone as only option makes no sense. I mean, it is an option for sure but there is a note with orange border (aka quest item) on the guy on the top floor. Tho' looting that does nothing. This quest is bugged or no one can figure out what to do...

[ExplodeySquirrel]

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ:

I dont understand how you did this. They dont do enough damage and how do I sneak all the explosives to the top when theyre immediately hostile getting up there?

After you obtain the passphrase for shopping on the second floor, all you need to do is sneak behind the lone guard at the staircase. Everyone on the top floor is stationary with gaps in vision where you need to place the explosives to finish the chain reaction, so you can either summon a mage hand on those areas or do some stealthy jumping and drop them directly from your inventory. You don't need to sneak when setting up the public floors.

I marked the required runepowder barrel locations for the top floor with conspicuous gold piles in this screenshot (4 total):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023816106
This is the vantage point for setting off the explosions. The top floor barrel you need to hit is already placed and you don't need to sneak it in:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023822112
Tomboldt the Pallid, the guard on the second floor, and the two guards on the main floor each need 2 explosives beside them to ensure a clean sweep on Tactician difficulty. Everyone else just needs to be caught in the chain reaction.

Originally posted by Brucius:

I mean, it is an option for sure but there is a note with orange border (aka quest item) on the guy on the top floor. Tho' looting that does nothing.

That note is one of a couple routes to discovering the Iron Throne and getting a quest to go there. You can also learn about it through the Steel Watcher factory, Wave Queen temple, Society of Brilliance (depending on Act 1 choices), or Mizora bargain (depending on Wyll quest progress), so it's optional to read it.

[dustin1280]

As far as I am aware, there is not a peaceful solution...

but you can cast fireball from the building across the way from the fireworks location and cause a massive explosion that kills at least half of the forces in that building.

And doing so from the top of the other building doesn't trigger guards...

[Snowpython]

I keep triggering the guard outside
Is there a way to avoid that so I am not marked?

[ExplodeySquirrel]

Originally posted by Snowpython:

I keep triggering the guard outside
Is there a way to avoid that so I am not marked?

The main issue is surviving witnesses. You may get tagged for vandalism if you shoot a firework from the rooftop into the main floor, but it shouldn't be counted as murder. If you can link together all 3 floors and explode it from the top you shouldn't be spotted at all, but it's best to have your party somewhere else on the map so they're not in the search radius to begin with.

[wendigo211]

It's a badly designed quest. I went in there as an Ancients Paladin, ended up killing everyone in the building, except for the customers, and about 3 Flaming Fist patrols. My Oath didn't break as along as I didn't kill the merchant on the first floor with my Paladin.

[EonChamille]

The only thing I have found that works without triggering guards is to lay all the explosive barrels and fireworks from the basement linking them from the first floor to the third (used beast form as a cat to reach the top floor), then using a fire element summon and using that to detonate the explosives. Just be careful when you go to loot as for some reason people outside the building and on the bottom floor can still see you even on the third floor which can trigger the guards to search for you anyway. Good luck!

[Zenturen]

You can shoot a firework from the roof of the abandoned house across the street into the open window on top floor. There is an explosive barrel that will hurt/kill some and a lot of the enemies will flock to the top floor. I lined up a bunch of barrels through sneaking and killed most of them, but not all. Fortunately combat only started when I reached the top floor and didn't attract the guard until the battle ended. If you're fast enough you can cast feather fall and jump from the open window or you'll have to succeed a persuasion check(s) to make it out of the area.

[wynebrdy]

Has anyone tried disguising their party and then either fighting or laying barrels? Curious if your party will still flag guard once finished.