is there ANY way to get to seluine temple without having to fight the entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ goblin encampment?

[Skwerley]

My party's stats dictate I should have only a little trouble with wiping the goblin camp, but
MISS
MISS
CRITICAL MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
Has had me reloading before the attempt. Even when summoning the 3 ogres to help, they miss every other attack and the goblins crit them to dust.

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate this type of ♥♥♥♥ in games. I need a way to get into the underdark to go to moonrise but the RNG, as always, is the biggest enemy and for me it's unrelenting.


INB4: telling me to kite them onto the bridge, telling me to stealth (because holding shift is supposed to tell you enemy sight lines but lol no, they still aggro if you don't touch the red area), etc. Am I just not able to do this quest that way in this playthrough because I made the rookie mistake of not being psychic or wanting to read 5 steps ahead in some walkthrough?

[女王 [Queen]]

Origineel geplaatst door Skwerley:

My party's stats dictate I should have only a little trouble with wiping the goblin camp, but
MISS
MISS
CRITICAL MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
MISS
Has had me reloading before the attempt. Even when summoning the 3 ogres to help, they miss every other attack and the goblins crit them to dust.

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate this type of ♥♥♥♥ in games. I need a way to get into the underdark to go to moonrise but the RNG, as always, is the biggest enemy and for me it's unrelenting.


INB4: telling me to kite them onto the bridge, telling me to stealth (because holding shift is supposed to tell you enemy sight lines but lol no, they still aggro if you don't touch the red area), etc. Am I just not able to do this quest that way in this playthrough because I made the rookie mistake of not being psychic or wanting to read 5 steps ahead in some walkthrough?

Play it slow. I was only lv3 when I slaughtered the camp. All you have to do is take it slow, bring a rogue, and make your way around taking them out. Abuse high ground and funnel them through places to force them to play your way and avoid their range.

[Skwerley]

Origineel geplaatst door osskssa17:

with the Hobgoblin boss i summoned the ogres, had to fight like 15 guys but most of the goblins are one shots. I had me a Druid, Astarion, Lae and Wyll who i changed to vengeance Pala cos i dont like Warlock. Helped have 2 two-handers but it was fairly easy with the ogres, this is on normal

Most of them SHOULD be one-shots, yes, but even at lvl 5, as per the very obnoxious repeated "MISS" I typed out over and over, it isn't working. This isn't MTG, not for me, even 4 HP chaff enemies end up hitting my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ monk for 4-5 HP.

There's also the REALLY fun ♥♥♥♥ where, I guess to save time? The devs group enemy actions together, and I'll be allowed to deflect missile if they don't shoot me 3 at a time, which they do a lot.

[Skwerley]

Origineel geplaatst door Zef:

Origineel geplaatst door MetalHev:

I just turned into a drow and walked in.

This is the real big brain move.

I actually forgot about that spell and now i wonder how different dialouge would have been if i used to change race more often.

Also "talk with the dead and talk with animals" , you should use it on everyone to get more information, often times you get vital quest info or a shorter route.

Already killed the goblin leaders and left the camp once, 0 dialogue is possible

[Strez]

Origineel geplaatst door Skwerley:

Origineel geplaatst door Sheev Racer:

You can bluff your way into the camp, kill the Priestess sneakily in her chapel, then kill her Ogre guard and enter the Selunite outpost without ever aggro'ing the camp. As long as you don't kill Dror Razglin, the camp will not aggro on sight.

There are plenty of other ways to enter the Underdark as well. Some may involve feathfall and jumping down a hole, or require fighting a relatively tough boss(fair fight at level 4 if you have a decent party, you'll stomp it at level 5 tho).

Already killed the goblin leaders and left the camp once, 0 dialogue is possible

Either stop sucking at the game and kill the camp full of weak goblins, or find one of the other routes into the Underdark.

[Skwerley]

Origineel geplaatst door Zef:

You can get into the temple without killing it just fine.

Leaving it while wanting the save the tieflings, that's another story.

It's not that hard though, most of the regular goblins die very fast and if you good use positioning and advantages you should be able to win.

Make sure you get Halsin before you tear up the place.

Already killed the goblin leaders and left the camp once, 0 dialogue is possible

[Skwerley]

Origineel geplaatst door OTSEchoZenLogos:

Yeah. You can either just convince them you're part of the Absolute's faithful and get by in a friendly way. Or you can sneak around most of the enemies by going around the side entrance (not the main gate, you have to sneak to the side then climb a ladder and blow up a wall) and using the rafters and such to get inside - though this requires more stealth.

If you already have fought and tried to kill them, then obviously they won't be friendly, but you can avoid most of them anyway.

Already killed the goblin leaders and left the camp once, 0 dialogue is possible

[Skwerley]

Origineel geplaatst door Six Biomes:

Lol, I would recommend learning the game or lowering the difficulty there's is absolutely nothing wrong with the combat system besides that tactician is a bit easy

Does your type think this kind of comment helps or makes you look good? You're literally a Dark Souls meme.

[Skwerley]

Origineel geplaatst door Sheev Racer:

Origineel geplaatst door Skwerley:

Already killed the goblin leaders and left the camp once, 0 dialogue is possible

Either stop sucking at the game and kill the camp full of weak goblins, or find one of the other routes into the Underdark.

Oh gee man what should I practice, what skill should I improve upon, to make sure my 80% chance attacks don't miss? How do I craft a potion of evasion? How do I mod the game so enemies aren't allowed to shoot me while I'm behind cover? Do I need to go full invisibility to continue to hide completely and entirely outside of enemy sight lines?

[Isseus]

Origineel geplaatst door Skwerley:

Origineel geplaatst door Isseus:

Talk your way in. Like, seriously. The Persuasion check is about 10.
Stealth / Invisibility
Have goblin from drood camp escort you
Use Illusions to change into a Drow
Use Illithid Powers
Use jump / featherfall to enter from the upper door that you have to break, sneak through the rafters into Granny's room and beat her ogre.
Enter through Underdark

Already done with the quest, there's 0 option for any dialogue ever once you kill the leaders but thanks for reading my posts

First off: Ungrateful.

Second of all: Your topic is "is there ANY way to get to seluine temple without having to fight the entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ goblin encampment?" Which I assumed was "never finished elementary school" to mean: Is there a way to get to the Seluné temple without having to fight the entire goblin encampment?" to which my answer is 100% perfect.

Third of all: You only whine about not being able to stealth in your message, you don't say a word about any quests or anything of the sort. If the game is too hard, turn on the "I'm a baby let me explore" difficulty. If you actually want advice, don't act like a ♥♥♥♥ to people who want to help you.

[pahrias]

Origineel geplaatst door Skwerley:

Origineel geplaatst door OTSEchoZenLogos:

Yeah. You can either just convince them you're part of the Absolute's faithful and get by in a friendly way. Or you can sneak around most of the enemies by going around the side entrance (not the main gate, you have to sneak to the side then climb a ladder and blow up a wall) and using the rafters and such to get inside - though this requires more stealth.

If you already have fought and tried to kill them, then obviously they won't be friendly, but you can avoid most of them anyway.

Already killed the goblin leaders and left the camp once, 0 dialogue is possible

Just quoting to be direct. Yes there are more ways into the underdark than the temple. At least two more that I have found.

Spoilers.

One, assuming you have been down there and killed the spider already, is in the main room where the queen spider is, jump down that hole. Have feather fall on or you will die. The second is more hidden and took me a while to figure out how to get through, but that is in the tea house at the other illusory door. If you are wearing a mask you can walk through it just like the other one. And use the mushroom circle to teleport. Its a less direct route and you may get caught in a fight with a beholder, but if youve done all the quests upto that point I am assuming you are at least level 5 or so.

Edit: I would recommend the teahouse if you want to get to the selune outpost beneath the temple. But if you just want to get into the underdark and dont really care about the outpost the spider cavern entrance puts you out in the underdark proper.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Eh advice,

Maybe this will help you out maybe you've already done it but...

Respec your party... not even saying change there class but, respec them. Especially characters like Shadowheart, who have really REALLY bad stat distributions. What helped me ALOT was just respecing them and fixing there stat allotment. Shadowheart went from a 13 strength to 16 which made her actually able to HIT things. Wear heavy armor, and be a pretty decent front liner. Astarion i switched to a Ranger/Rogue which made him go from kind of pointless to my highest damage dealer. Even Gale who i didn't change much at all benefited from adjusting his stats.

This will Help, but your going to have to accept you are going to miss alot... Especially tanky enemies like shield wielding goblins.

If that bothers you, this just isn't the game for you.

[Dezerker]

i snuck through the entire thing and killed all the leader ship off, funny things happen if you do that and never visit the grove first

[Umbral Knight]

Easy peasy. The are explosive and flammable barrels all over the place, there is also a whole room full of them past the Zhent merchants who I killed for being slavers. spread the barrels around near the largest concentration enemies in any area, not too close together, not to far apart. Stand back and touch them off with a flame arrow. I killed all the bosses and the mobs outside this way and just mopped up the stragglers on the fringes. The proper application of explosives solves many issues. the same works in many later fights if you can find the stuff to blow up. But if you made them all mad I'd go back to an earlier save.

[pahrias]

Origineel geplaatst door Isseus:

Origineel geplaatst door Skwerley:

Already done with the quest, there's 0 option for any dialogue ever once you kill the leaders but thanks for reading my posts

First off: Ungrateful.

Second of all: Your topic is "is there ANY way to get to seluine temple without having to fight the entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ goblin encampment?" Which I assumed was "never finished elementary school" to mean: Is there a way to get to the Seluné temple without having to fight the entire goblin encampment?" to which my answer is 100% perfect.

Third of all: You only whine about not being able to stealth in your message, you don't say a word about any quests or anything of the sort. If the game is too hard, turn on the "I'm a baby let me explore" difficulty. If you actually want advice, don't act like a ♥♥♥♥ to people who want to help you.

Dude, how was that ungrateful? He/she said at the end, "but thanks for reading my posts". I would say YOU are the one being a ♥♥♥♥ there. They did a copy paste reply a bit sure, but after having as many of the same replies as what yours seemed to be, can you blame them?

[Mini Mango]

Origineel geplaatst door Skwerley:

Origineel geplaatst door Footman Connaisseur:

well you can kinda manipulate some things before you "pull the entire camp"

you can take out the leaders 1 by 1, you can convince the goblin shaman to go to her room and yeet her in a 1vs4. you can bum rush the drow lady at her table and only gotta fight like 4 gobbos UNLESS 1 gets to the horn/drums nearby. for the tiefling/demon guy you can sneak up from above and throw ♥♥♥♥ at him like the blackpowder barrels etc. also if you are good at animal handling you can jump down to the spiders and convince them you are their friend and make them attack whatever the ♥♥♥♥ is outside their pen ( you gotta sneak pull the level , but it wont aggro anyone outside) and then you just gotta convince/beat up the ogre in the shamans private room. You can also convince the ogres in the town nearby to simply fight for you and they give you a horn you can use and they start smacking ♥♥♥♥ up for you when you use it. Also if you sneak kill "regular" npc's you can talk your way out of it and no1 gives a ♥♥♥♥. You can also spike the booze outside with poison and if no1 sees it and you have enough distance the few that survive will be on alert but won't be aggro.

Maybe I should add to the original post:

I've already beaten the goblin leaders. Warped out of the camp. Did a couple other side-quests.

I need to get back into the camp, to get to the sanctum, to get to the underdark. I'm a Drow.

I'm not currently sneaking around the camp.

Getting inside in the first place to get to the temple, there's a constant stream of enemies you can't sneak past.

There isn't a secret trick to it.

Approach from the front and lead them onto the bridge. You can shove them off the side or use AOE so they take damage getting to you. Sneak attack to start combat. Have a lot of grease/alchemist fire to throw around. You can pass around hp pots from your inventory to any character that needs healing. From there you can push in to the main part of the camp and then sneak around the top where most of the goblins are passed out drunk, then hop down (use featherfall) to the heavy oaken door.