This game is massively overrated.

[RyanVodka]

The praise this game is getting is more of a product of the fact that people are protesting the current state of big budget gaming and micro-transactions than it is the actual quality of the gameplay itself.

The DnD mechanics of BG3 make for a game that is objectively less fun and accessible than DOS2. The quality of the gameplay is reduced simply out of necessity to adhere to DnD rules. I admire the attention to detail of the game, but in the dozen or so hours I've played I can't say I've really enjoyed any of it.

Edit-

I take back what I said, the game is better than DOS2.

[DM]

Originally posted by RyanVodka:

The praise this game is getting is more of a product of the fact that people are protesting the current state of big budget gaming and micro-transactions than it is the actual quality of the gameplay itself.

The DnD mechanics of BG3 make for a game that is objectively less fun and accessible than DOS2. The quality of the gameplay is reduced simply out of necessity to adhere to DnD rules. I admire the attention to detail of the game, but in the dozen or so hours I've played I can't say I've really enjoyed any of it.

You can have your opinion, but I disagree entirely.

Games that are not live service AAA and don't have lootboxes or loads of MTX do not sell this many copies just because of those two differences.

And DOS2 released a long time ago. People want the new game, and there has been 3 years of early access here, if this was a mediocre game or a dumpster fire people would have been aware of that for a long time now.

This is a popular title based on it's own merits.

[james]

Anyone who claims that BG3 is less accessible than DoS2 is not viewing these games from the lens of someone who hasn't played many CRPGs. I noped out of DoS2 *because* it was so inaccessible; I didn't understand the rules, I didn't know what I was doing, how to create a strong character, etc. I'm not saying DoS2 isn't an outstanding game, but it was absolutely less accessible than BG3.

[⇧⇨⇩⇩⇩]

Originally posted by No-Life:

Originally posted by morrganstain:

Sounts like you need to adapt your tactics a bit because I dont find this need to rest after every encounter. :p

See this is where I have issue with this game and maybe I do suck and I am cool with it. How can tactics even apply with a dice roll? Its all RNG. Also i am not coming at you, just genuinely asking.

Try thinking of the battlefield like a chess board rather than a boxing ring. If you just trade blows with enemies then yes its all reduced to what you and they roll.
However if you take actions that enable you to damage the enemy but they haveto waste some turns just getting within striking range, that makes a huge difference.

Can you use height advantage to get better rolls?
Can you shove enemies off places so they take extra damage, or land prone and haveto waste a turn on just getting up and not being able to reach anyone to attack?
Can you engage a group of enemies from some advantageous angle so you get a round or two of just fighting half of them? Can you perhaps single out someone in a group and take out a guard first? Can you lure a group of enemies into a chokepoint?

[Lashane The Simp of Mimi]

so far it's "alright". if it wasn't for mods fixing the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ugly faces tho it'd be a skip.

[Reh]

Originally posted by ACS36:

Originally posted by CloudKira:

I enjoy this game.

I enjoy the game too -- but, it is still over rated. A lot of the praise is based on the commercial success and pop culture reaction to the game. That however, fails to scrutinize the game appropriately. It's a rather hyperbolic experience where people who like the game lavish praise on it for self gratification in order to demonstrate they are part of the herd.

Spot on.

This game has so many bad design decisions ,anti quality of life features and rushed, mediocre writing that whenever I see people giving it this wild, overblown praise I can't help but think that their hype wagon came with no windows to look outside.

I like it, but for me its enjoyment value is at about 50% off current price.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by dulany67:

It's arguable that DOS is a better system for a video game, but not all games need to be the same. And millions of people love D&D so...

DOS was also famous for how terrible its RPG mechanics were... Both DOS and D&D 5e have less character customization and tactical depth than checkers or tic-tac-toe...

[The Key of Diary]

i like this game

[PrimusNephilim]

This game is everything I expected, awesome game play, great story and just a fun time. I will be playing BG3 for years

[dannyj147]

Originally posted by Ringo:

Yes. I'm not even the cynical type etc but I really wish I could filter out this game via my ISP or something, I am so beyond sick and tired of seeing it everywhere I go it's like that jim carrey movie where he can't stop seeing the number 23 or whatever it was.

From an outsider non-D&D perspective it really just looks like a terrible Diablo knockoff. I greatly look forward to when the hype / collective nostalgia crack binge dies down so it can stop being a pet peeve and the world can focus on actually good innovative not-dollar-store-clone games. :)

Sheesh it's marketing. Won't Starfield be everywhere soon enough too?

[Roaming Zombie]

I detest the DOS system with all my heart. Especially part 2 with all that armor crap. That made the battles really unfun and formulaic. I much prefer DnD as it gives you way more options to handle battles.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Roaming Zombie:

I detest the DOS system with all my heart. Especially part 2 with all that armor crap. That made the battles really unfun and formulaic. I much prefer DnD as it gives you way more options to handle battles.

You should try Pathfinder.

Then you might have a glimpse into what "options" can actually look like.

[Roaming Zombie]

Originally posted by Naked Granny:

Originally posted by Roaming Zombie:

I detest the DOS system with all my heart. Especially part 2 with all that armor crap. That made the battles really unfun and formulaic. I much prefer DnD as it gives you way more options to handle battles.

You should try Pathfinder.

Then you might have a glimpse into what "options" can actually look like.

Finished those a long long time ago (I think I played every proper western RPG or close to it). There are differences though. They are more management and powerplay since you are more a god (especially the seond one). But BG3 offers me a lot more fun in the combat. I could not yeet enemies across the entire battlefields or make buildings come down on enemies or have so much fun in conversations).

I don't really tend to favour games, I appreciate them for what they are. Something more people should do.

[Pixelado™]

Originally posted by RyanVodka:

The praise this game is getting is more of a product of the fact that people are protesting the current state of big budget gaming and micro-transactions than it is the actual quality of the gameplay itself.

The DnD mechanics of BG3 make for a game that is objectively less fun and accessible than DOS2. The quality of the gameplay is reduced simply out of necessity to adhere to DnD rules. I admire the attention to detail of the game, but in the dozen or so hours I've played I can't say I've really enjoyed any of it.

No, it's not overrated.
You don't like it, uninstall it.
End.

[TankNspanK]

such edge much wow. go play something else then

[Sceles]

Originally posted by RyanVodka:

The DnD mechanics of BG3 make for a game that is objectively less fun and accessible than DOS2. The quality of the gameplay is reduced simply out of necessity to adhere to DnD rules. I admire the attention to detail of the game, but in the dozen or so hours I've played I can't say I've really enjoyed any of it.

It's weird that you have not enjoyed any of it, but I kind of agree. DnD has lots of dated stuff that could be improved and that's why many modern CRPGs don't like using things from DnD 1:1. Some might argue that even BG3 doesn't, but it's still reaaally close to actual DnD.

Edit: Personally I've enjoyed the game a great deal but the amount of jank in targeting, movement and UI is pretty nuts. I don't remember DOS2 having as many issues with those.