Sorcerer, Druid or Ranger? And some more question....

[Xequilibrium]

Im about to start this game but i really can't choose wether to play a Sorcerer, Druid or Ranger. I know what they can do, but im still in doubt.

1. I would like to hear your choice and why you pick that one over the other.
2. Also does the sorcerer has the option to wear medium (or even heavy) armor somehow?
3. Is a Animal companion strong on ranger?
4. Is ranger better with bow or dual swords?
5. Does the druid has access to allot of spells?
6. Are those spells AOE and are they strong?

7. Can we change hairs and face later ingame? If not will they add it?

Thank you for the reactions :).

[tainawoman]

If you choose Draconic (Blood) Sorcerer, you have AC 13 from start. Of course, you can and should use Mage Armor (although I don't have this spell yet).
Also I can tell you that early game the sorcerer has better cantrips like Firebolt than in Pathfinder where at first few level I had to fight with a shortbow.

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Ty everyone for the answer.

Can you tell me how to take/learn the medium armor feat? Sorry, im really new:)

Feats are a class feature, most classes get feats at levels 4, 8, 12, 16 & 19, some may get extra feat, it is tied to class progression, not character, with regards to multi-classing.

Ahh so basicly every class can wear al armor if they're patience enough?

Also is it better to go full sorc or to multi class?

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Origineel geplaatst door Xequilibrium:

1. I would like to hear your choice and why you pick that one over the other.
2. Also does the sorcerer has the option to wear medium (or even heavy) armor somehow?
3. Is a Animal companion strong on ranger?
4. Is ranger better with bow or dual swords?
5. Does the druid has access to allot of spells?
6. Are those spells AOE and are they strong?

7. Can we change hairs and face later ingame? If not will they add it?

1. For a first run, I would probably go Sorcerer out of those three choices, because Charisma is its primary stat, and Charisma is going to carry you through many of the interactions in this game.
My ranking of the subclasses since starting playing:
Draconic Sorcerer
Beastmaster Ranger
Circle Moon Druid
Spores Druid

Circle of the Land Druid
Hunter Ranger
Storm Sorcerer
Wild Magic Sorcerer

Gloomstalker Ranger - Larian fecked up the implementation of this subclass so badly. Its a gold standard in TT, but its BG3 version is terrible.

2. Not out of the box, no. But if you take a race that has armor proficiencies (like dwarf or gith), or you multiclass into a class for a level that has such proficiencies (like paladin, or war domain cleric), then you can wear armor and cast fine. The key is being proficient in the armor you want to wear.
3. Yes. The Beast Master pet is quite useful and capable, and gets better as you level.
4. Bow. The Archery fighting style + the sharpshooter feat will have you outputting far more damage, and more easily and safer, than using dual weapons.
5. The Druid does have a varied and good spell list. Its cantrips are kind of meh, but everything else is good.
6. Some are? Some are also control spells. And some are support spells. The druid really has a grab bag of everything.

7. No, and I have heard no mention of it being added.

Origineel geplaatst door Xequilibrium:

Also is it better to go full sorc or to multi class?

For you, as a relative beginner, I would just go straight Sorcerer.

Origineel geplaatst door tainawoman:

If you choose Draconic (Blood) Sorcerer, you have AC 13 from start. Of course, you can and should use Mage Armor (although I don't have this spell yet).

I will note that Draconic Sorcerer doesnt need mage armor, as it doesn't stack. Nor does it stack with armor.

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1. I would like to hear your choice and why you pick that one over the other.
2. Also does the sorcerer has the option to wear medium (or even heavy) armor somehow?
3. Is a Animal companion strong on ranger?
4. Is ranger better with bow or dual swords?
5. Does the druid has access to allot of spells?
6. Are those spells AOE and are they strong?

7. Can we change hairs and face later ingame? If not will they add it?

1. For a first run, I would probably go Sorcerer out of those three choices, because Charisma is its primary stat, and Charisma is going to carry you through many of the interactions in this game.
My ranking of the subclasses since starting playing:
Draconic Sorcerer
Beastmaster Ranger
Circle Moon Druid
Spores Druid

Circle of the Land Druid
Hunter Ranger
Storm Sorcerer
Wild Magic Sorcerer

Gloomstalker Ranger - Larian fecked up the implementation of this subclass so badly. Its a gold standard in TT, but its BG3 version is terrible.

2. Not out of the box, no. But if you take a race that has armor proficiencies (like dwarf or gith), or you multiclass into a class for a level that has such proficiencies (like paladin, or war domain cleric), then you can wear armor and cast fine. The key is being proficient in the armor you want to wear.
3. Yes. The Beast Master pet is quite useful and capable, and gets better as you level.
4. Bow. The Archery fighting style + the sharpshooter feat will have you outputting far more damage, and more easily and safer, than using dual weapons.
5. The Druid does have a varied and good spell list. Its cantrips are kind of meh, but everything else is good.
6. Some are? Some are also control spells. And some are support spells. The druid really has a grab bag of everything.

7. No, and I have heard no mention of it being added.

Origineel geplaatst door Xequilibrium:

Also is it better to go full sorc or to multi class?

For you, as a relative beginner, I would just go straight Sorcerer.

Origineel geplaatst door tainawoman:

If you choose Draconic (Blood) Sorcerer, you have AC 13 from start. Of course, you can and should use Mage Armor (although I don't have this spell yet).

I will note that Draconic Sorcerer doesnt need mage armor, as it doesn't stack. Nor does it stack with armor.

I see, thnx this helped allot. One other question tho, are melee classes overall beter then range or magic classes?

I saw people saying that fighters get like 5 attacks and sorc only 1 or 2?

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I see, thnx this helped allot. One other question tho, are melee classes overall beter then range or magic classes?

I saw people saying that fighters get like 5 attacks and sorc only 1 or 2?

Tough to say. Melee (and martial ranged -bows, crossbows) tend to be really good at applying damage to one spot/target, while magic users are good for spreading the love- be it damaging a lot of enemies at once or supporting allies.
They definitely work better together.

Fighters can get 8 attacks in a turn through one specific build at lvl 12 for a single turn using haste spell, but more reliably and usually are going to have two attacks a turn for most of the game. Three if they spec a certain way. But its all going to be single target. Most spell casters can wave their hand and hit everyone in the room, and as a sorcerer, you can usually do it twice a turn.
You will want to be able to do both, but you won't be able to do both with a single character, hence why you have a party.

[Cenwalh]

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I see, thnx this helped allot. One other question tho, are melee classes overall beter then range or magic classes?

I saw people saying that fighters get like 5 attacks and sorc only 1 or 2?

No, they are not necessarily better or worse. Spell casters get less attacks, but that is offset by the fact that they have a wide array of spells to use.
This is part of the balance of D&D -- martial classes (those that don't use spells) tend to be stronger in the early game, but only by a small margin. At later levels, spell casters are usually the most difficult type of character to deal with in this system, because they can do scary things like making you blind, incinerating your whole party with a fireball, etc.

Martial classes get more attacks because that's kinda the only thing they can do. Aggro enemies, attack them and hold them in place while the wizard blasts them with spells.

It's not a simple matter of one is stronger than the other. In the hands of a player, any class can be powerful and deal with any encounter, albeit in different ways.
Mages tend to be more versatile even out of combat - a lot of spells have utility in other types of situations that don't involve violence.

The progression and balance is different when it comes to martial vs. spell caster. Casters tend to be weak during the early game, and become godlike later on. Martial classes tend to be very strong early and reach their full potential sooner (but still very good).

As a spell caster you don't need 5 attacks to keep up with the Fighter's damage. Your one high-level spell can have a more powerful effect than the Fighter's 5 attacks.

[Claudussy]

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Sorcerer, Druid or Ranger? And some more question....
Im about to start this game but i really can't choose wether to play a Sorcerer, Druid or Ranger. I know what they can do, but im still in doubt.

1. I would like to hear your choice and why you pick that one over the other.
2. Also does the sorcerer has the option to wear medium (or even heavy) armor somehow?
3. Is a Animal companion strong on ranger?
4. Is ranger better with bow or dual swords?
5. Does the druid has access to allot of spells?
6. Are those spells AOE and are they strong?

7. Can we change hairs and face later ingame? If not will they add it?

Thank you for the reactions :).

This might not be much, but in my book still an important point: I chose sorceress because I can identify myself best with that background of being born cursed with wild magic and half elf no place to really belong.

So it is an entirely role play decision for me with the wish to play someone I identify with, while embracing all disadvantages which comes with that gameplay wise.

holy sht i cringed hard reading that

[Maligner]

I almost always like to start out with a fighter. I'm sure that's an unpopular choice. I'd rather be the most survivable starting out until I master the game systems. I've tried playing squishies in new games and sometimes it just leads to a lot of game overs that breaks the immersion and frustrates me. Once I get things figured out, I'll dabble with other classes.

Classic story, first time I played EQ right after launch I picked a human wizard because it sounded neat. Squishy and blind in the dark. It was quite an experience, I can tell you! Old school Everquest did not mess around with your fee-fees.

[R3sistance]

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Feats are a class feature, most classes get feats at levels 4, 8, 12, 16 & 19, some may get extra feat, it is tied to class progression, not character, with regards to multi-classing.

Ahh so basicly every class can wear al armor if they're patience enough?

Also is it better to go full sorc or to multi class?

Depends, but using feats to get from light armour to heavy armour isn't really worth it, since you also do need to get your ability scores up as well, Charisma is used for both magic attack (accuracy) and save DC of sorcerer spells.

Multi-classing or not gets a bit complicated, you slow spellcasting progression so it depends on if what you get from multi-classing is worth slowing that progression.

[Goob🍻]

1. I picked a dark urge gloomstalker ranger. You get an item SUPER early that gives you invisibility anytime you get a kill so you have advantage a ton of the time. at level 7 im doing 20-60+ damage every turn. I actually took out a 100 hp enemy in a single turn with it before it had a chance to do anything
2. Also does the sorcerer has the option to wear medium (or even heavy) armor somehow? You would need to get a proficiency from your starting race or through a feat you get at levels 4/8/and 12
3. Is a Animal companion strong on ranger? yes, but not like broken strong
4. Is ranger better with bow or dual swords? generally theyre optimized for bows but dual swords are fine too. theres a feat that would benefit you greatly at level 4 for dual wielding
5. Does the druid has access to allot of spells? a bit less than other spellcasters but they have a lot of druid only spells. They also are hard to kill since once youre low on health you can wild shape and get a whole new health pool
6. Are those spells AOE and are they strong? druids do have a lot of good AOE spells that are strong
7. Can we change hairs and face later ingame? If not will they add it? I dont think so on either of these. there are a few in game events that can give minor modifications to your face, but not customization you get to pick from

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1. I picked a dark urge gloomstalker ranger. You get an item SUPER early that gives you invisibility anytime you get a kill so you have advantage a ton of the time. at level 7 im doing 20-60+ damage every turn. I actually took out a 100 hp enemy in a single turn with it before it had a chance to do anything
2. Also does the sorcerer has the option to wear medium (or even heavy) armor somehow? You would need to get a proficiency from your starting race or through a feat you get at levels 4/8/and 12
3. Is a Animal companion strong on ranger? yes, but not like broken strong
4. Is ranger better with bow or dual swords? generally theyre optimized for bows but dual swords are fine too. theres a feat that would benefit you greatly at level 4 for dual wielding
5. Does the druid has access to allot of spells? a bit less than other spellcasters but they have a lot of druid only spells. They also are hard to kill since once youre low on health you can wild shape and get a whole new health pool
6. Are those spells AOE and are they strong? druids do have a lot of good AOE spells that are strong
7. Can we change hairs and face later ingame? If not will they add it? I dont think so on either of these. there are a few in game events that can give minor modifications to your face, but not customization you get to pick from

Thnx , but beeing sneaky and invis al the time is not the playthrough i want to do tho:)