Where are the crowd control spells and abilities?

[loveless]

About 20 hours into the game and I don't recall seeing CC spells for the Wizard and Cleric. All status effects seem to only hit and affect one target. Where are the CC spells and how effective are they?

For clarity: I mean spells that hit more than one target and inflict a status effect like sleep, paralyze, charm. Like the stunned status effect in DOS:2 after meeting certain conditions.

[Varg]

Hold person? web? hypnotic pattern? not spotted any of these?

[loveless]

Hold person only affects one person? As far as I recall.

Edit: I have not spotted hypnotic pattern.

[Raven]

I dont think you know what CC means.... wether it hit one person or more its still CC... I think youre talking about AOE ?

[rusthoi]

you got sleep that can target several enemies

[HozzMidnight]

There's quite a few and some really nice combos. Grease+Circle of Daggers shredded the Redcap fight for me.

[ihatevnecks]

Sleep, Charm, Color Spray, Blind, Darkness, Crown of Madness, Gaseous Cloud, Grease, Cause Fear, Tasha's Hideous Laughter... those are just the early CC spells I can remember off the top of my head from the wizard/sorcerer and cleric lists.

[Kyutaru]

Grease, Sleep, Hold person (it affects more targets if you upcast it), Web, Thunderwave, Charm, there's tons of ways to do it mate. Upcasting spells usually gives them additional targets.

[Pirate shaped cookie]

I like Tasha's hideous laughter early on. It looks like most of the classic DnD spells just at different levels than what I am used to.

[Silverquick]

They're in but they've been really watered down.
Like Sleep only lasts for a single round. Overall its the spellcasting side that's lagging behind.

Other spells cut out much earlier than they are supposed to. Granted that's only the first and second level ones so far as I haven't gotten to 5th yet, but it is noticable they... put a serious damper on them when they should not have.

Burning Hands and Thunder Wave the range on them has been seriously cut down.

They need to be powered back up to 5th Edition spell power.

[Morgian]

There is a pattern spell on level 3 and there are the vines of the druids, and of course grease on level 1. Clerics have no low level AE CC spells, unless we have differing opinions what a CC spell is. They have command, though.
There are very few AE spells below level 3, walls are typically level 4-6, great command would be 5, if it is in the game.

How effective are they? Depends on your DC and therefore your caster level and casting stat, 20 is possible at level 4. As expected, the enemies will save often, wasting your spell slot - around 50%, better if bosses. That is the main reason most casters go for evocations, since the targets will at least take half damage.
In this game I can pick up explosive barrels and carry them with me. They can be placed tactically and detonated together with several mobs, if the position allows for it. Very effective, if said mobs are currently peaceful and allow me to place them and take a few steps back. The hag and the goblin bosses can be trivialized that way. Probably not what you look for, though.

[katzenkrimis]

Make your own with water and electricity.

Grease and fire.

[Sgt. Sumo]

Fear my guy, cone

[loveless]

Originally posted by Raven:

I dont think you know what CC means.... wether it hit one person or more its still CC... I think youre talking about AOE ?

You're right, I do think of CC as AOE with status effects. I'll just edit the main post to better reflect what I'm looking for.