What's the point of having a tank in your team ?

[Bonom]

If the AI always targets your character with the lowest AC ? Larian, why did you do this ? Have you ever played an RPG before ? Combats in this game feels more like an Hike & Seek party with your mage than a real dnd fights.

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Originally posted by mrbonhomme:

If the AI always targets your character with the lowest AC ? Larian, why did you do this ? Have you ever played an RPG before ? Combats in this game feels more like an Hike & Seek party with your mage than a real dnd fights.

Have you ever played chess? You protect your squishier party members with your frontliners. Either enemies will stay to fight them or you will get free damage from auto attacks.

[Brother PaciFist]

Perhaps it is a good thing that the holy trinity of tank, healer, damage dealer gets a little mixed up once and a while in RPGs.

[navigator4223]

"Tanking" mostly is an MMORPG concept nowadays, in ARPGs and CRPGs it is mostly pointless.

Positioning and CC are far more important, as well as using mechanics like surprise rounds, etc...

It's also far closer to how a real life combat would work - in MMORPGs there is the limit of interactiability given by constraints such as "we have lag, a lot of players and at the same time we need to do it in full real time", thats why they implement it differently. Old WoW did in quite a successful manner (don't know about Kottick WoW, I refuse to play Blizztard games since he took over).

In proper medieval age combat, shields served three purposes:

a) Protect the single fighter, but they didn't act as what we think of as a party today
b) In line based tactics they were used to slow down the enemy onslaught
c) During tournaments they were used as part of the show

[Bonom]

Originally posted by morrganstain:

Originally posted by mrbonhomme:

If the AI always targets your character with the lowest AC ? Larian, why did you do this ? Have you ever played an RPG before ? Combats in this game feels more like an Hike & Seek party with your mage than a real dnd fights.

Have you ever played chess? You protect your squishier party members with your frontliners. Either enemies will stay to fight them or you will get free damage from auto attacks.

That's my point if you can read. You CAN'T do that in BG3. Ennemies doesn't care if you have a melee character in front of them or your wizard, They ALWAYS target your lowest AC character, no matter what.

[RoboSauce]

I'm only 10 hours in but I've recently read that there are no cover rules, which kind of sucks. Shadowheart's job is to constantly resurrect Wyll in my game as he gets lit up constantly even though I try to hide him.

[Rhym3z]

Originally posted by mrbonhomme:

Originally posted by morrganstain:

Have you ever played chess? You protect your squishier party members with your frontliners. Either enemies will stay to fight them or you will get free damage from auto attacks.

That's my point if you can read. You CAN'T do that in BG3. Ennemies doesn't care if you have a melee character in front of them or your wizard, They ALWAYS target your lowest AC character, no matter what.

I don't mind that personally.
I mean we use our choices to generally kill the weakest enemy don't we? Or at least the most susceptible to a certain damage type/effect etc?
I mean that's what I do anyway

[Brother PaciFist]

It would not help you much if the enemies would only target tanks in BG3. Most harder enemies can onehot them.

If you and your goblin friends were in a fight with a group of people, and the frontline wears plate armor and the backline fancy dresses with sparkling stars and moons knit on them. Who would you attack?

Just kidding.

[Pozhinateli]

There is no point. There is 12 lvl cap so there is no point of have even the casters. All you need is 2 characters good at melee and range, something to detect traps and you can think about cleric with use medium armor anyway.

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Originally posted by mrbonhomme:

Originally posted by morrganstain:

Have you ever played chess? You protect your squishier party members with your frontliners. Either enemies will stay to fight them or you will get free damage from auto attacks.

That's my point if you can read. You CAN'T do that in BG3. Ennemies doesn't care if you have a melee character in front of them or your wizard, They ALWAYS target your lowest AC character, no matter what.

Sure you can. You might not be making any good moves tho.
Perhaps go watch some letsplays if you need a bit of help how to handle combat.

[Kyutaru]

You don't need a single tank. You need two. And you need it for more DPS.

All the people complaining about low dice roll probabilities aren't using tanks. Having two frontliners in threaten range of the same opponent gives Advantage to all attack rolls against that target. That's the point of melee, to buff your hit chance massively in additional to all the defensive benefits.

So yeah, if you're complaining that the game feels like XCOM and you only hit 60% of the time, move two characters into melee and buff your hit chance to 96%.

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Originally posted by Pozhinateli:

There is no point. There is 12 lvl cap so there is no point of have even the casters. All you need is 2 characters good at melee and range, something to detect traps and you can think about cleric with use medium armor anyway.

Lol have you ever played DnD? XD

[Lord Enclave]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

You don't need a single tank. You need two. And you need it for more DPS.

All the people complaining about low dice roll probabilities aren't using tanks. Having two frontliners in threaten range of the same opponent gives Advantage to all attack rolls against that target. That's the point of melee, to buff your hit chance massively in additional to all the defensive benefits.

So yeah, if you're complaining that the game feels like XCOM and you only hit 60% of the time, move two characters into melee and buff your hit chance to 96%.

Could you tell me what type of buff prevents my character rolling single digit dice 4 times in a row? This game is heavily RNG. For example, take that Hellion Commander fighting with the MIndflayer at the helm. The dude got 18AC so 40% hit chance for me. It took 6 reloads with my fighter to kill him and i never got him below 50HP even with everybody hitting him. So i ran away. That same fight with my barb was over even before the 2 hellions could get close. Same 40% hit change, just higher dice rolls, my barb never rolled a single digid dice, my figher hardly rolled double digits. That looks to me typical RNG and a case of bad luck.
Or am i missing something here?

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by mrbonhomme:

Originally posted by morrganstain:

Have you ever played chess? You protect your squishier party members with your frontliners. Either enemies will stay to fight them or you will get free damage from auto attacks.

That's my point if you can read. You CAN'T do that in BG3. Ennemies doesn't care if you have a melee character in front of them or your wizard, They ALWAYS target your lowest AC character, no matter what.

They only do that if you don’t lock them down with either a powerful melee character or CC effects.

[Windwalker82]

Originally posted by Lord Enclave:

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

You don't need a single tank. You need two. And you need it for more DPS.

All the people complaining about low dice roll probabilities aren't using tanks. Having two frontliners in threaten range of the same opponent gives Advantage to all attack rolls against that target. That's the point of melee, to buff your hit chance massively in additional to all the defensive benefits.

So yeah, if you're complaining that the game feels like XCOM and you only hit 60% of the time, move two characters into melee and buff your hit chance to 96%.

Could you tell me what type of buff prevents my character rolling single digit dice 4 times in a row? This game is heavily RNG. For example, take that Hellion Commander fighting with the MIndflayer at the helm. The dude got 18AC so 40% hit chance for me. It took 6 reloads with my fighter to kill him and i never got him below 50HP even with everybody hitting him. So i ran away. That same fight with my barb was over even before the 2 hellions could get close. Same 40% hit change, just higher dice rolls, my barb never rolled a single digid dice, my figher hardly rolled double digits. That looks to me typical RNG and a case of bad luck.
Or am i missing something here?

Try toggling the karmic dice option, see if you enjoy that better.

Btw, that commander you mention doesn't need to be killed. The game even tells you so. It's purposely made hard.

[Lord Enclave]

Originally posted by Windwalker82:

Originally posted by Lord Enclave:

Could you tell me what type of buff prevents my character rolling single digit dice 4 times in a row? This game is heavily RNG. For example, take that Hellion Commander fighting with the MIndflayer at the helm. The dude got 18AC so 40% hit chance for me. It took 6 reloads with my fighter to kill him and i never got him below 50HP even with everybody hitting him. So i ran away. That same fight with my barb was over even before the 2 hellions could get close. Same 40% hit change, just higher dice rolls, my barb never rolled a single digid dice, my figher hardly rolled double digits. That looks to me typical RNG and a case of bad luck.
Or am i missing something here?

Try toggling the karmic dice option, see if you enjoy that better.

Btw, that commander you mention doesn't need to be killed. The game even tells you so. It's purposely made hard.

The dude drops nice loot, the only reason i want him dead. And the karmic dice was off. It's just a case of bad luck. Yesterday I've spent 2 turns hitting nothing and my enemies spend 2 turns hitting nothing either. And that was even with buffs and potions.