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ALWAYS LAST ON INITIATIVE!!!!
So I play a tempest cleric and I know I only have 8 dex so that gives me -1 on initiative rolls but there's no way I'm ALWAYS last to act in EVERY SINGLE FIGHTS. Is there a bug due to class or something???
Originally posted by WeirdWizardDave:
Turns out BG3 uses a d4 for initiative. So everyone rolls a d4 and adds their dex bonus (plus any other modifiers from magic items etc). This gives a pretty tight spread as the random component is only 1-4. So with a -1 initiative your going to be getting 0-3 lets say a typical enemy has a +1 their getting 2-5. You don't have to get very unlucky to be constantly at the end of the init track with that.
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Xenomorph Kitty Aug 5, 2023 @ 8:33pm 
No. You just have crappy RNG
igor140 Aug 5, 2023 @ 8:34pm 
Nope. Just a -1, when most characters should have at least a +2. Certain classes and creatures also get a bonus to initiative, depending on level.

I'm pretty sure there's a feat you can take that boosts your initiative (there is in PnP), but it's generally considered a waste of time.

Initiative is also only really relevant for the first turn. After that, it doens't really matter.

Also, being last as a cleric isn't a bad thing, because it allows you to get healing ASAP.
RACHMANOVSKI Aug 5, 2023 @ 8:34pm 
Depends on difficulty too.

But yes. Since you shoot your leg by dumping dex, enjoy being always likely to do the last move 👍🏾
初音 ♥ ミク Aug 6, 2023 @ 11:21am 
Yah, my initiative is +0 as my dex is 10. I'm also playing a tempest cleric and I'm constantly last. At lvl 4, I took Alert and now for some reason it works and I've been all over.

I've been playing with 3 other friends in a multiplayer game and yes I can say my entire group thought it was very odd what was going on so I bet it is a bug. Tempest domain was not in the game before the the release so maybe its bugged.
Not only do you have a penalty, but most npc's have a bonus.
infinity Aug 7, 2023 @ 1:39pm 
Yeah, it's definitely a bug. I have 10 Dex and I'm running into the same issue - always last in initiative.
Clovis Sangrail Aug 7, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Time for a visit to Withers and respecs that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ DEX. Your armor must suck, too.
Xenomorph Kitty Aug 7, 2023 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by infinity:
Yeah, it's definitely a bug. I have 10 Dex and I'm running into the same issue - always last in initiative.
10 dex is pretty baseline. It's not a big. It's bad luck with RNG.
doublejesus Aug 7, 2023 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by Seri:
Originally posted by infinity:
Yeah, it's definitely a bug. I have 10 Dex and I'm running into the same issue - always last in initiative.
10 dex is pretty baseline. It's not a big. It's bad luck with RNG.
It depends, mostly on how much you value the extra constitution for saving during concentration. I much more prefer at least a 14 in dex so I can get that +2 that aligns well with most of the best medium armor.
infinity Aug 7, 2023 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by Seri:
Originally posted by infinity:
Yeah, it's definitely a bug. I have 10 Dex and I'm running into the same issue - always last in initiative.
10 dex is pretty baseline. It's not a big. It's bad luck with RNG.
After 40 hours of play I feel it's unlikely to be just RNG. It's like, more weight is given to those with a bonus to their initiative, beyond the dice roll.
Dre G Writer Aug 7, 2023 @ 6:48pm 
Originally posted by Martini Gentleman:
So I play a tempest cleric and I know I only have 8 dex so that gives me -1 on initiative rolls but there's no way I'm ALWAYS last to act in EVERY SINGLE FIGHTS. Is there a bug due to class or something???

Dex is like the one Stat that I dont let any of my characters do below 10 for. Its too important.

But there is a way to get around this, kinda of. Your low Dex character, dont initiate combat with them, or start any conversations with them as some conversations will initiate combat if stuff pops off.

Have your low dex character somewhere far away, and most likely in stealth, so when combat does start, when its your characters turn in combat, select your low dex character, youll notice they are not in combat, and can freely move while everyone else is in combat. Have your low dex character sneak around avoiding sight cones and get up nice-n-close to a enemy who is in combat and attack them for a sneak attack. You'll then be in combat,a dn gotten the first hit right before combat even really began.

I do this with all three of my character so my whole team get the first few hits in, and since they are sneak attacks, they get advantage so some of them just straight up die from the first attack. softening up their numbers before the battle even begins.
Last edited by Dre G Writer; Aug 7, 2023 @ 6:50pm
Yateria Kurosawa Aug 26, 2023 @ 6:30am 
I have 14 Dex and i just cant get any high rolls on initiative. Karmic dice on and off. I hate to admit it but ive legit save scummed to test it... either im just really badly unlucky(in which case, ♥♥♥ you RNGesus) or theres some sort of hidden bonus' that the enemies get.

heck Astarion who has 17 dex cant even get higher than enemies... thats massively concerning
Last edited by Yateria Kurosawa; Aug 26, 2023 @ 6:30am
Jimmy Aug 26, 2023 @ 6:35am 
You said it yourself, you have 8 dexterity. My dex characters and melee fighters with the "Alert" trait always go first in every single combat encounter. Even my wizard usually gets to go before some enemies because I have put some points in dexterity and I have a shield that gives me +2 on initiative.
hannibal_pjv Aug 26, 2023 @ 6:40am 
My dex 18 character are normally along the first and dex8 characters among the last. Ofcourse thre is variance depending on the luck, but if you have high bonus it helps in iniative!
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WeirdWizardDave Aug 26, 2023 @ 6:46am 
Turns out BG3 uses a d4 for initiative. So everyone rolls a d4 and adds their dex bonus (plus any other modifiers from magic items etc). This gives a pretty tight spread as the random component is only 1-4. So with a -1 initiative your going to be getting 0-3 lets say a typical enemy has a +1 their getting 2-5. You don't have to get very unlucky to be constantly at the end of the init track with that.
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