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Karlack Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:32am
What are the major gameplay differences between a pure Sorcerer and a multiclass as Sorcerer and Warlock?
I can't decide between these two anad I don't know nothing about endgame spells or endgame
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daveyfunk Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:36am 
Pure Sorc will just be magic but there are different ways you can play adding Warlock. If you take 3 levels of Warlock then you can take pact of the blade and so your weapon and magic will work off of charisma. If you take 5 levels warlock then you get extra attack with your weapon. Warlock has some nice abilities like Eldritch Blast as a cantrip, darkness and hex. Warlock also gets spells back on short rest and so Sorc can then use these for metamagic
Karlack Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by daveyfunk:
Pure Sorc will just be magic but there are different ways you can play adding Warlock. If you take 3 levels of Warlock then you can take pact of the blade and so your weapon and magic will work off of charisma. If you take 5 levels warlock then you get extra attack with your weapon. Warlock has some nice abilities like Eldritch Blast as a cantrip, darkness and hex. Warlock also gets spells back on short rest and so Sorc can then use these for metamagic
Am I missing too much socerer fun spells doing that?
Morgian Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:43am 
A pure sorcerer has his full level advancement in spells, a multiclass does not. A warlock uses eldritch blast as his main weapon, but that progresses on warlock levels, as do his other abilities. He will be crippled if you multiclass in my opinion; but maybe you want some fighter-like type with some magic and don't like the archetypes?

Some classes can multiclass better than others (like the fighter/rogue of old), but for spellcasters it is usually a mistake, unless you are after some form of fighter/magic-user.

On a sidenote: I don't know how the class bonus works when you multiclass, better check up on that first, just in case.
daveyfunk Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by Morgian:
A pure sorcerer has his full level advancement in spells, a multiclass does not. A warlock uses eldritch blast as his main weapon, but that progresses on warlock levels, as do his other abilities. He will be crippled if you multiclass in my opinion; but maybe you want some fighter-like type with some magic and don't like the archetypes?

Some classes can multiclass better than others (like the fighter/rogue of old), but for spellcasters it is usually a mistake, unless you are after some form of fighter/magic-user.

On a sidenote: I don't know how the class bonus works when you multiclass, better check up on that first, just in case.

Are you sure EB builds from Warlock class? On DnD is works off of character level and I understood that to be the same as BG3. The whole point of why a Warlock multiclass is so strong is because EB scales off of character level
Jonkler Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Morgian:
A pure sorcerer has his full level advancement in spells, a multiclass does not. A warlock uses eldritch blast as his main weapon, but that progresses on warlock levels, as do his other abilities. He will be crippled if you multiclass in my opinion; but maybe you want some fighter-like type with some magic and don't like the archetypes?

Some classes can multiclass better than others (like the fighter/rogue of old), but for spellcasters it is usually a mistake, unless you are after some form of fighter/magic-user.

On a sidenote: I don't know how the class bonus works when you multiclass, better check up on that first, just in case.
Cantrips scale of character level, not class level. At least in tabletop, not sure whether they changed it in BG3.
Morgian Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:50am 
Admittedly an assumption of mine, as spells work off caster level in the RPGs I play. I cannot confirm in this game, since my warlock will stay single class.
daveyfunk Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by Karlack:
Originally posted by daveyfunk:
Pure Sorc will just be magic but there are different ways you can play adding Warlock. If you take 3 levels of Warlock then you can take pact of the blade and so your weapon and magic will work off of charisma. If you take 5 levels warlock then you get extra attack with your weapon. Warlock has some nice abilities like Eldritch Blast as a cantrip, darkness and hex. Warlock also gets spells back on short rest and so Sorc can then use these for metamagic
Am I missing too much socerer fun spells doing that?

It really depends on your preference, but Sorc doesn't get as many spell choices as Wizard. Speccing into Warlock actually helps with spell slots as you get Warlock spell slots regen on short rest

If you want to be more of a blaster then you want more levels in Sorc and 2 levels of Fighter can give you action surge so you could go 2 Fighter/3Warlock (pact of the blade if you want a sorta battlemage 5 Warlock if you want extra attack) and the rest Sorc

If you fancy more of a magical melee build then a mix of Warlock and Paladin probably works best as you can get pact of the blade and then all attacks will work off of charisma. Pally is a strong melee choice as they have smite and some really good abilities. You can basically use Eldritch Blast as your ranged attack and then get in close to whack away and add smites where need be. Pally gets extra attack so 3 levels of warlock is all you need

Sorc/Warlock is more of a blaster and Pally/Warlock is more of a melee based magic build
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Sea Base Aug 5, 2023 @ 10:55am 
Just gonna say, Warlock/Sorcerer focusing on Eldritch blast is one of the 'vanilla' min/max meta combat characters in 5e. I imagine it's the same here.
You loose a little bit of utility out of both, but you also end up murdering everything extremely hard through comboing metamagic and eldritch blast, then using your spell slots for other effects.
Karlack Aug 5, 2023 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by Sea Base:
Just gonna say, Warlock/Sorcerer focusing on Eldritch blast is one of the 'vanilla' min/max meta combat characters in 5e. I imagine it's the same here.
You loose a little bit of utility out of both, but you also end up murdering everything extremely hard through comboing metamagic and eldritch blast, then using your spell slots for other effects.
So if I understood correctly, a pure sorcerer has access to more endgame big spells, but the sorcerer/warlock has more burst spamming spells?
Last edited by Karlack; Aug 5, 2023 @ 11:19am
Jonkler Aug 5, 2023 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Karlack:
Originally posted by Sea Base:
Just gonna say, Warlock/Sorcerer focusing on Eldritch blast is one of the 'vanilla' min/max meta combat characters in 5e. I imagine it's the same here.
You loose a little bit of utility out of both, but you also end up murdering everything extremely hard through comboing metamagic and eldritch blast, then using your spell slots for other effects.
So if I understood correctly, a pure sorcerer has access to more endgame big spells, but the sorcerer/warlock has more burst spamming spells?
You lose access to 6th and a feat or 6th and 5th level spells (depending on your investment in warlock), but you get access to warlock spellbook (especially Hex) and a very powerful cantrip
Last edited by Jonkler; Aug 5, 2023 @ 11:59am
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