Tavern brawler

[Dirty Mike]

Does that work for druid moonbuild?

[dolby]

using a spore druid sorry:)

[Dirty Mike]

Originally posted by dolby:

using a spore druid sorry:)

Why was that relevant then xD

[Tahl]

So I was wondering this too, it should. Im pretty sure animal attacks are called unarmed elsewere in game.
So here is what I did.
Saved(obviously), grabbed TB, got freaky with it Halsin style, slapped my companions and hovered over the outcomes in chat.

Attack roll: 16(1d20) +2(prof) +4(Tavern Brawler) + 4 (strength modifier) = 26

So yes, it appears to be in there and doing oak fathers good work.
Point of clarity though, as this hit my face like a door on a windy day, its for attack rolls(like it says, duh) not damage rolls. So its the hit chance, not the dmg output.

[hannibal_pjv]

Spore Druid spores works with weapon attack and unarmed attacs are not weapon attacks in BG3 so no… Unless they change the game…

Animal attacs are not unarmed attacs and they are not weapon attacks… so they don´t work either. (In bg3 in 5e it depends on you DM)

That is what I supose after reading the comments. Have not tested though…
More familiar with monk…

[Tahl]

Originally posted by hannibal_pjv:

Spore Druid spores works with weapon attack and unarmed attacs are not weapon attacks in BG3 so no… Unless they change the game…

Animal attacs are not unarmed attacs and they are not weapon attacks… so they don´t work either. (In bg3 in 5e it depends on you DM)

That is what I supose after reading the comments. Have not tested though…
More familiar with monk…

Animal attacks are unarmed as you are attacking with melee while not using a weapon. The combat log, as mentioned, does back up this understanding as part of the calculation(if you hover over your attack roll in the log) will show TB as one of the additive values.
I tested this with bear at least. Ill play around with some of the others today.

I believe something at level five also confirms this in how it describes an effect but Ill have to wait as I only hit 4 recently.

PS: Level 5 feature Wild Strikes. "...unarmed strike while in wild shape".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hiy_D5KUco
13m in.

[Astrobabe]

Looked at the combat log for the saber-tooth tiger wild shape, and tavern brawler applies to the attack roll but NOT the damage roll for some reason. Don't know if that's intended; hopefully it's a bug or else the feat would be half useless.

[Tahl]

Hitting 90% of your attacks over 20% is not useless.
TB description does say "Attack rolls".
All that said, I would also, personally, prefer dmg rolls. But Im not playing on easy, so being around 60% more likely to actually land an attack is enough for me to keep the feat.

[mag74]

It says "damage and attack rolls",so if it buffs one it should also buff the other.At the moment it's bugged and buff only the attack roll.you can check the talent here https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Feats

[Galamere]

I'm currently running a STR monk, it's been a beast.

Half orc with STR 20. Using a staff that gives the unarmed strikes +1 to hit and damage with unarmed and a +2 to saves.

If I can get some decent gloves then I'll probably drop it though, d6+10 damage 4 or more times a turn is brutal (I'm level 6, so its only going to get meaner)

To note. The only thing I think you lose in this game, when wearing armor as a monk, is tbe movement speed. I threw on some scale armor I had and was slower than sin, couldn't stealth, ETC. But it didn't lock me out of my skills or lower my fists damage that I could tell.

At this point I'm thinking of either two levels of Fighter for Action Surge or Barb for Rage and just wear med armor and maybe a shield.

Could even go Ranger Knight for heavy armor, shields and some Ranger spells with resistance...would be nasty as hell.

[Dirty Mike]

Originally posted by Galamere:

I'm currently running a STR monk, it's been a beast.

Half orc with STR 20. Using a staff that gives the unarmed strikes +1 to hit and damage with unarmed and a +2 to saves.

If I can get some decent gloves then I'll probably drop it though, d6+10 damage 4 or more times a turn is brutal (I'm level 6, so its only going to get meaner)

To note. The only thing I think you lose in this game, when wearing armor as a monk, is tbe movement speed. I threw on some scale armor I had and was slower than sin, couldn't stealth, ETC. But it didn't lock me out of my skills or lower my fists damage that I could tell.

At this point I'm thinking of either two levels of Fighter for Action Surge or Barb for Rage and just wear med armor and maybe a shield.

Could even go Ranger Knight for heavy armor, shields and some Ranger spells with resistance...would be nasty as hell.

while I respect what you went with, what does that have to do with druid and tavern brawler :P

[Kanti Sanrakshakudu]

Originally posted by Narco:

Originally posted by Galamere:

I'm currently running a STR monk, it's been a beast.

Half orc with STR 20. Using a staff that gives the unarmed strikes +1 to hit and damage with unarmed and a +2 to saves.

If I can get some decent gloves then I'll probably drop it though, d6+10 damage 4 or more times a turn is brutal (I'm level 6, so its only going to get meaner)

To note. The only thing I think you lose in this game, when wearing armor as a monk, is tbe movement speed. I threw on some scale armor I had and was slower than sin, couldn't stealth, ETC. But it didn't lock me out of my skills or lower my fists damage that I could tell.

At this point I'm thinking of either two levels of Fighter for Action Surge or Barb for Rage and just wear med armor and maybe a shield.

Could even go Ranger Knight for heavy armor, shields and some Ranger spells with resistance...would be nasty as hell.

while I respect what you went with, what does that have to do with druid and tavern brawler :P

lmao!!

[Galamere]

Nothing at all, this feed came up in relation to a search for the Tavern Brawler feat and saw folk talking about it. Seen plenty of others speculating on what it works with or doesn't, so I commented on my experience.

If you want a relation, then my post is affirming that it works with normal unarmed attacks, So these melee attacks from the animal forms don't seem to be considered true 'unarmed' attacks. Much like how one can't Sneak Attack with a Wild Shaped form even if they use Dex for their attack.

Or, take my willingness to try something to heart and try it yourself. It's a game where we can fully respec. Testing is fun ^_^

[Dirty Mike]

It does work though as someone above tested, just not for damage.

[Tofu Fighter]

Originally posted by Tahlaon:

Hitting 90% of your attacks over 20% is not useless.
TB description does say "Attack rolls".
All that said, I would also, personally, prefer dmg rolls. But Im not playing on easy, so being around 60% more likely to actually land an attack is enough for me to keep the feat.

Actually the description says damage and Attack rolls.

[Nomad]

Originally posted by Galamere:

Nothing at all, this feed came up in relation to a search for the Tavern Brawler feat and saw folk talking about it. Seen plenty of others speculating on what it works with or doesn't, so I commented on my experience.

If you want a relation, then my post is affirming that it works with normal unarmed attacks, So these melee attacks from the animal forms don't seem to be considered true 'unarmed' attacks. Much like how one can't Sneak Attack with a Wild Shaped form even if they use Dex for their attack.

Or, take my willingness to try something to heart and try it yourself. It's a game where we can fully respec. Testing is fun ^_^

This is accurate to D&D then. It is a technicality but some creatures in D&D like druids in animal form are using claw and bite attacks to do damage. These are considered to be natural weapons. Attacks with things other than fists and feet aren't usually considered unarmed strikes.