Conjuration Wizard?

[daveyfunk]

Is this actually worth it? Without 14th level the summons are pretty weak and there aren't all that many good summons anyway? Even with all the subclasses added, the only two viable options still only seem to be Evocation and Abjuration? They're the only two subclasses that offer anything useful in their progression? You can still use any spell from any class

[ACS36]

No. There are really only two styles of play in a video game like this.

Charisma to avoid combat, or killing your enemies as fast as possible so you minimize damage to your party.

If you want to play a conjuration wizard you're going to have to play pen and paper where DM's can make games more dynamic for sake of class fantasy.

[Ommamar]

I am sure you meant subclass. It is a strange decision that the only benefit seemed to be a reduction in scribing plus a few extra skill choices that aren't that good.

[mig-77]

For Wizard divination is strongest. They can change failure to success or success to failure twice a day (any d20 throw). Portent ability is that good

[daveyfunk]

Originally posted by mig-77:

For Wizard divination is strongest. They can change failure to success or success to failure twice a day (any d20 throw). Portent ability is that good

You have to make the choice whether to change before throwing the dice though? If you could change knowing it would improve the roll then I can appreciate how strong it is, but changing before and possibly ruining a good roll in the first place seems way too risky. And only getting to change 2 rolls a day just doesnt seem that great to me. Am I completely wrong with this?

[Catowl]

Originally posted by daveyfunk:

Originally posted by mig-77:

For Wizard divination is strongest. They can change failure to success or success to failure twice a day (any d20 throw). Portent ability is that good

You have to make the choice whether to change before throwing the dice though? If you could change knowing it would improve the roll then I can appreciate how strong it is, but changing before and possibly ruining a good roll in the first place seems way too risky. And only getting to change 2 rolls a day just doesnt seem that great to me. Am I completely wrong with this?

You are. The way it's implemented is say... Enemy tries to hit the wizard or ally near them. Enemy succeeds on the roll but wizard has a portent dice that can make it a failure. You are the prompted if you want to substitute the roll or not. If you don't, the successful hit happens. If you do, then enemy (presumably) misses.

[ayrtep]

Conjuration does not seem to have much to do with conjuring allies, rather it allows you to teleport more often, which looks useful.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

How did Larian implement the subclass features?

[daveyfunk]

Originally posted by Renen:

Originally posted by daveyfunk:

You have to make the choice whether to change before throwing the dice though? If you could change knowing it would improve the roll then I can appreciate how strong it is, but changing before and possibly ruining a good roll in the first place seems way too risky. And only getting to change 2 rolls a day just doesnt seem that great to me. Am I completely wrong with this?

You are. The way it's implemented is say... Enemy tries to hit the wizard or ally near them. Enemy succeeds on the roll but wizard has a portent dice that can make it a failure. You are the prompted if you want to substitute the roll or not. If you don't, the successful hit happens. If you do, then enemy (presumably) misses.

Thank you. Ok, that does seem pretty strong then as you can ensure you're strongest attack hits, I guess, or potentially stop a death dealing blow

The way it's written suggests you have to choose before you roll, but I think it's how I've read it :S