Lost my oath for being strategic

[Spooky7.62]

I didnt betray anyone, this features implementation is off.

[Spooky7.62]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

I guess paladins aren't allowed to be smart. Gotta have the "lawful stupid" thing somewhere I suppose.

What oath was your paladin before breaking it? Devotion?

I had three oaths

Vengeance: basically slay the wicked (which I did)

Devotion: Loyalty (which I did, In the long run, protected my Kin)

and

Ancients: which I guess is protect existence or nature, this one definitely wasn't an issue.

the game assumes I broke my oath of vengeance or devotion because I sided with a villain dialogue option; It doesn't make much sense.

I could understand my Oath-breaker status after the entire quest-line was finished If I sided with the villain, but that was not the case.

also my payment is only 1000, but yea I ain't paying that.

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

lol yeah i respecced out of paladin as well. its basically like not having a subclass. I killed priestess gut, but she called for help, so when I killed the zhent traders it broke my oath.

cant even defend yourself as a paladin without breaking your oath. The sad thing is there are DMs that will do anything they can to find an excuse to break your paladins oath and take away your powers, seems Larian is of the same school of thought.

[Arngrim]

Originally posted by Spooky5.45:

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

I guess paladins aren't allowed to be smart. Gotta have the "lawful stupid" thing somewhere I suppose.

What oath was your paladin before breaking it? Devotion?

I had three oaths

Vengeance: basically slay the wicked (which I did)

Devotion: Loyalty (which I did, In the long run, protected my Kin)

and

Ancients: which I guess is protect existence or nature, this one definitely wasn't an issue.

the game assumes I broke my oath of vengeance or devotion because I sided with a villain dialogue option; It doesn't make much sense.

I could understand my Oath-breaker status after the entire quest-line was finished If I sided with the villain, but that was not the case.

also my payment is only 1000, but yea I ain't paying that.

You don´t have three oaths, you chose one of them and get criteria to uphold. Check that little book in your inventory.

[mig-77]

You can only have one subclass. So which were you (btw. oathbraker is actually very good subclass)?

[robilar5500]

Paladins are supposed to be held to the strictest standards, so this makes sense in general. That said, playing as a Fallen Paladin is probably also fun.

[Spooky7.62]

Originally posted by Arngrim:

Originally posted by Spooky5.45:

I had three oaths

Vengeance: basically slay the wicked (which I did)

Devotion: Loyalty (which I did, In the long run, protected my Kin)

and

Ancients: which I guess is protect existence or nature, this one definitely wasn't an issue.

the game assumes I broke my oath of vengeance or devotion because I sided with a villain dialogue option; It doesn't make much sense.

I could understand my Oath-breaker status after the entire quest-line was finished If I sided with the villain, but that was not the case.

also my payment is only 1000, but yea I ain't paying that.

You don´t have three oaths, you chose one of them and get criteria to uphold. Check that little book in your inventory.

well if that the case the games didn't explain that very well they just gave me a book with three devotions, and I know I'm basically an inquisitor.

bottom line I didn't betray no body, and doing the right thing doesn't renew your oath, but money will.

[mig-77]

Originally posted by robilar5500:

Paladins are supposed to be held to the strictest standards, so this makes sense in general. That said, playing as a Fallen Paladin is probably also fun.

Yep and Oathbraker is possibly also strongest of those subclasses. Im currently playing vengeance paladin and if I fall… so be it 🙂

[RamzaBehoulve]

Originally posted by Spooky5.45:

Originally posted by Arngrim:

You don´t have three oaths, you chose one of them and get criteria to uphold. Check that little book in your inventory.

well if that the case the games didn't explain that very well they just gave me a book with three devotions, and I know I'm basically an inquisitor.

bottom line I didn't betray no body, and doing the right thing doesn't renew your oath, but money will.

You broke the Oath you chose at character creation, end of story.

You normally CANNOT recover your Oath in DnD unless your DM is extremely understanding. Larian did you a huge favor by allowing it for something as simple as 2000 gold.

Maybe they will add redemption quests eventually, but at least you have the option to go back if you want to.

[RamzaBehoulve]

Originally posted by mig-77:

Originally posted by robilar5500:

Paladins are supposed to be held to the strictest standards, so this makes sense in general. That said, playing as a Fallen Paladin is probably also fun.

Yep and Oathbraker is possibly also strongest of those subclasses. Im currently playing vengeance paladin and if I fall… so be it 🙂

I've been trying to break it, but it seems difficult as Vengeance.

[mig-77]

Originally posted by RamzaBehoulve:

Originally posted by mig-77:

Yep and Oathbraker is possibly also strongest of those subclasses. Im currently playing vengeance paladin and if I fall… so be it 🙂

I've been trying to break it, but it seems difficult as Vengeance.

Yep, because they are allowed to do ”anything” if it is way of their vengeage. I believe that how to break is to side with ”evil” or dont help to fight against it.

[Revener]

Originally posted by .Master Jiren, The Strongest:

lol yeah i respecced out of paladin as well. its basically like not having a subclass. I killed priestess gut, but she called for help, so when I killed the zhent traders it broke my oath.

cant even defend yourself as a paladin without breaking your oath. The sad thing is there are DMs that will do anything they can to find an excuse to break your paladins oath and take away your powers, seems Larian is of the same school of thought.

Yes you can defend yourself just fine without breaking your oath. I had no issues when I played oath of devotion in EA. Just don't lie, also I killed the traders too no issues. But you can not lie your way into the goblin camp and then start killing them. It is rather obvious.

Also you have party members that can be used to trigger certain situations and do some dirty work.

[TheDeskAgentTTV]

Originally posted by ✙205🍉🐆→:

Originally posted by Lobsterkuln:

....So you did something deceitful and are surprised it broke your Paladin Oath?

It's hard to be a paladin with low intelligence, he's probably half-orc

Nah, even a half-orc is smarter than OP

[Spooky7.62]

Originally posted by TheDeskAgentTTV:

Originally posted by ✙205🍉🐆→:

It's hard to be a paladin with low intelligence, he's probably half-orc

Nah, even a half-orc is smarter than OP

Im a Tiefling

[TheDeskAgentTTV]

Originally posted by Spooky5.45:

Originally posted by TheDeskAgentTTV:

Nah, even a half-orc is smarter than OP

Im a Tiefling

I never said what you were, I was just saying a half-orc is smarter than you. You betrayed your Oath, suck it up, or roll a new character.

[Cryptic]

Yeah, I actually made a post about this the other day how there was a situation that really didn't make any sense for the Paladin to lose his oath because he wasn't doing anything evil and I used non-lethal to subdue some opponents in a situation where they were the aggressors but it still caused me to break my oath afterwards so I just reloaded and kept him out of it and solve the problem with the other characters. It felt very weird but I can understand that maybe the developers had a different idea of what was going on here then I did and when you are playing with a tabletop dungeon master, things can be reasoned out where in a video game, that's not always possible