wilhelm scream

[bipbob]

The Wilhelm scream, in the first minute of the game, in a serious cinematic intro, in 2023. Show immediately: a - the game has really cheap sense of humor, b - the people behind the audio are low professionals thinking too much about themselves. Any sound designer with self respect nowadays would not even think about using it. Couldn't you at least veil the sound with some post processing? Gosh... the cringe and sadness.

[Edelgris]

SCENE: A dark room, with a single bright light, illuminating a surgeon and OP lying on an operating table.

Surgeon: "OP has been infected with the Wilhelm Scream Mind Virus. I'm afraid there's no other way... We have to... amputate..."

Fade to black

Cue Wilhelm Scream

'FIN'

[bipbob]

For all smart commentators above, here is an opinion of a rock star sound designer Chuck Russom, who made audio for such games like MoH, CoD, HoMM, GoW:

"What does the Wilhelm Scream mean to me:

The Wilhelm is an overused sound effect that sound people still put in their projects because they either think it is funny or they think they are Ben Burt. It is such a cliche' that even normal (non sound) people recognize it. My wife recognized it without me even mentioning it to her. Then she asked why this same scream is popping up everywhere.

It totally pulls me out of a film/game/etc when I hear it, ruins the scene for me, and I cringe when I hear it. People need to stop using the damn thing already. It was a Ben Burt thing that was later used by people at Skywalker who had worked with Burt as sort of a tribute to him and an inside joke. Well, it isn't an inside joke anymore, everyone is on to it and it is just stupid."

As I mentioned in the post, sound designers who use it are either have very bad sense of humor or they are just immature professionally to understand it. It is sad to see it in a such massive game.

[Zoopy]

Don't criticise the use of the WIlhelm scream or else a lot of people are going to get big mad and insult you and call you big mad.

I love irony so early in the morning.

[Aria Athena]

Publicado originalmente por Zoopy:

Don't criticise the use of the WIlhelm scream or else a lot of people are going to get big mad and insult you and call you big mad.

I love irony so early in the morning.

You have to understand how stupid this critique sounds to someone who hasn't watched a ton of films and/or is not familiar with that sound effect.

[Khaylain]

Publicado originalmente por bipbob:

For all smart commentators above, here is an opinion of a rock star sound designer Chuck Russom, who made audio for such games like MoH, CoD, HoMM, GoW:

"What does the Wilhelm Scream mean to me:

The Wilhelm is an overused sound effect that sound people still put in their projects because they either think it is funny or they think they are Ben Burt. It is such a cliche' that even normal (non sound) people recognize it. My wife recognized it without me even mentioning it to her. Then she asked why this same scream is popping up everywhere.

It totally pulls me out of a film/game/etc when I hear it, ruins the scene for me, and I cringe when I hear it. People need to stop using the damn thing already. It was a Ben Burt thing that was later used by people at Skywalker who had worked with Burt as sort of a tribute to him and an inside joke. Well, it isn't an inside joke anymore, everyone is on to it and it is just stupid."

As I mentioned in the post, sound designers who use it are either have very bad sense of humor or they are just immature professionally to understand it. It is sad to see it in a such massive game.

Yup, perfectly written.
The Wilhelm scream in anything is just a bad choice since it has been used so much that many (most?) people actually recognize it when they hear it. They may not know exactly why they recognize it, but they do. It's a really bad scream, and using it cheapens the media that uses it.

[glenn9171]

I noticed it and I loved it. It's mixed in with other audio, so it's not too over the top. It's an inside joke of sorts. It's great.

Also, if one half second sound bite before the game even begins is your complaint, then you have some major issues to work over in your life.

[Zoopy]

Publicado originalmente por glenn9171:

Also, if one half second sound bite before the game even begins is your complaint, then you have some major issues to work over in your life.

If this is the kind of thing you casually say to strangers on the internet who you don't know at all, then I'd say your advice applies to you too.

[Edelgris]

Publicado originalmente por Khaylain:

Publicado originalmente por bipbob:

For all smart commentators above, here is an opinion of a rock star sound designer Chuck Russom, who made audio for such games like MoH, CoD, HoMM, GoW:

"What does the Wilhelm Scream mean to me:

The Wilhelm is an overused sound effect that sound people still put in their projects because they either think it is funny or they think they are Ben Burt. It is such a cliche' that even normal (non sound) people recognize it. My wife recognized it without me even mentioning it to her. Then she asked why this same scream is popping up everywhere.

It totally pulls me out of a film/game/etc when I hear it, ruins the scene for me, and I cringe when I hear it. People need to stop using the damn thing already. It was a Ben Burt thing that was later used by people at Skywalker who had worked with Burt as sort of a tribute to him and an inside joke. Well, it isn't an inside joke anymore, everyone is on to it and it is just stupid."

As I mentioned in the post, sound designers who use it are either have very bad sense of humor or they are just immature professionally to understand it. It is sad to see it in a such massive game.

Yup, perfectly written.
The Wilhelm scream in anything is just a bad choice since it has been used so much that many (most?) people actually recognize it when they hear it. They may not know exactly why they recognize it, but they do. It's a really bad scream, and using it cheapens the media that uses it.

Which is not a big deal no matter how you look at it. The soundbite itself is recognized by a tiny amount of people. I think it's safe to say, far less than 1%.

For those who do recognize it, it's also safe to say that only a small portion is bothered about it.

For an even smaller portion, it's a problem for any longer than a few seconds, max.

At this point, we're talking about a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of people - to which this 'issue' actually poses any matter of importance. In conclusion, this is more about a segment of extreme statistical outliers obsessing over something insignificant rather than an actual problem.

[[S.A.S]sephchan]

I agree, it was a bit cringe.
But w/e I'm over it.

[Khaylain]

Publicado originalmente por Edelgris:

Publicado originalmente por Khaylain:

Yup, perfectly written.
The Wilhelm scream in anything is just a bad choice since it has been used so much that many (most?) people actually recognize it when they hear it. They may not know exactly why they recognize it, but they do. It's a really bad scream, and using it cheapens the media that uses it.

Which is not a big deal no matter how you look at it. The soundbite itself is recognized by a tiny amount of people. I think it's safe to say, far less than 1%.

For those who do recognize it, it's also safe to say that only a small portion is bothered about it.

For an even smaller portion, it's a problem for any longer than a few seconds, max.

At this point, we're talking about a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of people - to which this 'issue' actually poses any matter of importance. In conclusion, this is more about a segment of extreme statistical outliers obsessing over something insignificant rather than an actual problem.

Prove it. You're just making a lot of assumptions here trying to make your argument seem reasonable. If you're going to be using statistics as an argument then you must actually have those statistics to back up your claims.

[Aeden]

Publicado originalmente por Zoopy:

Publicado originalmente por Blame:

To be mad about it is ridiculous, though.

Why? It breaks immersion. Whenever I hear it, it immediately pulls me out of whatever film I'm watching or game I'm playing. I really wish sound designers would find a new "tradition".

In that case, the Wilhem Scream will be replaced by the "screaming goat."

[Zoopy]

Publicado originalmente por Edelgris:

Which is not a big deal no matter how you look at it. The soundbite itself is recognized by a tiny amount of people. I think it's safe to say, far less than 1%.

For those who do recognize it, it's also safe to say that only a small portion is bothered about it.

For an even smaller portion, it's a problem for any longer than a few seconds, max.

At this point, we're talking about a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of people - to which this 'issue' actually poses any matter of importance. In conclusion, this is more about a segment of extreme statistical outliers obsessing over something insignificant rather than an actual problem.

That's a lot of assumptions in one post.

[Zoopy]

Publicado originalmente por Aeden:

In that case, the Wilhem Scream will be replaced by the "screaming goat."

I wouldn't mind that. ;)

[Blame]

Publicado originalmente por Zoopy:

Publicado originalmente por Blame:

Nah, it's literally a YOU problem.
It's a less than 1-second audio clip of a character screaming that plays once during the game that you're playing or the movie that you're watching, and you let it bother you so much that you want to complain about it, when most people either don't care, have a "aha" moment, or don't even notice it. It's literally a non-issue and a fun-thing for the creative people that make these medias and for each other to spot it.

Is there anything else that you'd like to complain about?

You're the one doing the most complaining here. My friend, people are going to criticise things that you don't have an issue with. It's going to happen often in life. The earlier you learn to deal with that reality, the better for you in the long run.

This thread would have been dead already if you didn't keep coming back to complain that someone doesn't like something that you don't care about.

Now is there anything else that you want to bellyache over?

This is not "complaining", this is me calling out how dumb this "criticism" is.
But I guess the finer details are lost on someone like you.

[AsianGirlLover]

F-tier opinion. Anyone with a modicum of class and culture would know that including the Wilhelm scream in your movie/game/etc. is a classic Easter egg and a tradition. It’s a fun way for writers, directors, and film enthusiasts to “wink” at one another with an inside joke.