Unfair dice rolls - question

[Luqe302]

Hey, do any of you also feel that the dice rolls during battles aren't fair? I know it's very likely just my perception, but I've been making an effort to remember successful and failed rolls since yesterday morning. From what I've observed, about 65% to 70% of weapon attack attempts during battles end up with dice rolls of less than "10" (without any bonuses). I'm not complaining about whether I hit or not, as I know that depends on many factors. However, the dice roll itself should ideally be a 50-50 chance (above 10/below 10). Also worth noting is that I have karmic dice turned off. During one battle, I had the chance to reload a save about dozen of times. The hit chance was 70% with my weapon, yet I missed over 10 times in a row (I didn't have 'disadvantage' or any negative statuses).

Is it possible that I'm just unlucky? After all, it's supposed to be random, right? Or is it just my perception that the dice rolls aren't fair? Or could it be some way of preventing the game from being too easy? Has anyone else experienced something similar?

It bothers me that's why I'm asking :D

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Have you checked your settings? There is an option called karmic dice, it trys to average out your rolls to 10 and it's on by default try playing with it off see if it improves most people dislike the setting

[Swimfan]

I have Karmic off and I know what you mean.

It might be me having extreme bad luck for the last 10 hours since official launch but I'm starting to get suspicious.

[Luqe302]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Have you checked your settings? There is an option called karmic dice, it trys to average out your rolls to 10 and it's on by default try playing with it off see if it improves most people dislike the setting

I have Karmic Dice off. I expected dice rolls to be fairly random. But my experience with that is not the best

[VeraelHasta]

I turned off karmic dice.
I fought 3 goblins on a roof.
I counted how many times I landed a hit with 45-65% chance.
I landed 2 hits out of 12.
Turned the karmic dice back on.

[Ne[M]esis]

put karmic dice on? doh

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by Luqe ✪302:

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Have you checked your settings? There is an option called karmic dice, it trys to average out your rolls to 10 and it's on by default try playing with it off see if it improves most people dislike the setting

I have Karmic Dice off. I expected dice rolls to be fairly random. But my experience with that is not the best

Never hurts to try playing with them on either, could be a case of bad luck lol

[hannibal_pjv]

I have been luckier than average in my dies rolls during the last few days. It happens!

[The God Ghetto Holy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

To put it simply, humans believe dice rolls should "Balance out" after so many. But a single dice roll doesn't care what you rolled previously. You can roll all 1's in a game.

Chances are though, they use a psuedo random number generator that has a period. I'm not sure what generator they use.

I doubt their random number generator is broken though and they aren't coding the game to ruin your combat.

I don't want to just say it's all in your head but, it's probably a reaction to the frustration of a combat being difficult. Play with the mindset that unless a % chance to hit something is 100% you are probably (Probability, heh) going to miss =)

Then find ways to maximize your success around the idea that all your dudes are swinging and missing.

[Luqe302]

Originally posted by The God Ghetto Holy:

I don't want to just say it's all in your head but, it's probably a reaction to the frustration of a combat being difficult. Play with the mindset that unless a % chance to hit something is 100% you are probably (Probability, heh) going to miss =)

Then find ways to maximize your success around the idea that all your dudes are swinging and missing.

I know what you mean. I know that failures are more severe than successes and we often just remember that, so it may seem like we're unlucky.

My frustration was why I expressed my doubts here. However, I do not accuse the Larians of deliberately acting in this regard. Maybe just bad luck. We'll see today.

[CraftyMage]

First fight with imps. ZERO hits in 30+ rolls. Feel like I'm missing (no pun intended) something.

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by CraftyMage:

First fight with imps. ZERO hits in 30+ rolls. Feel like I'm missing (no pun intended) something.

You must have Karmic dice turned off for something like this to happen. Turn them on. The imps are VERY easy to hit (meaning your hit-% should be way above 70%).

[uni790]

Well, the hit chances here aren't nearly as rigged as Xcom 2, so there's that at least. As it's a video game it'll never truly be random, computers aren't capable of true random, but it's not so bad as is.

[SaltySandman]

Originally posted by CraftyMage:

First fight with imps. ZERO hits in 30+ rolls. Feel like I'm missing (no pun intended) something.

Laughs in 99% misses in xcom. But honestly? Do the attacks you use even use your highest attribute?

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by uni790:

Well, the hit chances here aren't nearly as rigged as Xcom 2, so there's that at least. As it's a video game it'll never truly be random, computers aren't capable of true random, but it's not so bad as is.

XCOM 2 riggs dice rolls in favor of the player on the two lowest difficulties and has normal RNG in the other two.

Yes, "true RNG" doesn't exist with computers, but that doesn't mean much for us as players.

The reason why computer RNG isn't "true RNG" is that they use seeds in an algorithm to generate numbers and because they work with a predefined algorithm, the numbers they spit out are technically predictable. That predictability is the only difference between a computer throwing x dice and you throwing x Laplace dice with identical throwing conditions for each throw.