Nere fight is completely unbalanced

[Mickey Histo]

I played like a degen yesterday and today and made it to the nere fight, 6+ duergar who can call attack 2-4 times per person per round all level 5 with a boss stacked on top of it. supposedly you can recruit three duergar to help you, but despite crawling through the wiki and 2 year old reddit posts, these duergar will not even give me a dialog option other than to leave. tried different positioning, tried the ogre horn (didnt even summon them) tried cheese, tried invisibility, tried a different party comp. tried to side with nere and say ♥♥♥♥ the gnomes, none of it works, they hit too many times, push you into lava and insa kill you, but if you push them they just kinda sit in there and take a bit of damage, dont know what im missing, but jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ christ is this too much to handle.

[Shipra]

i skipped this fight did the forge and came back they were all dead.

[Crigor]

Welcome to Original Sin 3 aka Baldur's Gate 3. Dont expect they use DnD rules, the claim do, but they havent even read them. Just enjoy the dickgirlz and vaginaboyz and genderfluid Orc shemales.

[Mickey Histo]

Originally posted by Crigor:

Welcome to Original Sin 3 aka Baldur's Gate 3. Dont expect they use DnD rules, the claim do, but they havent even read them. Just enjoy the dickgirlz and vaginaboyz and genderfluid Orc shemales.

the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about

[Clown Smile]

Forgot about the constant charming of your party, this fight makes me want to play something else really.

[eldiabs]

There's a certain horn that can be obtained earlier in the game that I used during this fight to call in some hungry reinforcements. Even then, it was a close call and two of the hungry boys perished. Tough game. Seems they are either trying to force players to min max or do every little quest for xp to progress from one big fight to another. Mixed feelings about it. Still a fun game. Great story. Maybe a bit too horny for my tastes but most of that can be skipped. Can't hang with Gale because he's a creepy horny weirdo every time I talk to him.

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

Originally posted by Mickey Histo:

I played like a degen yesterday and today and made it to the nere fight, 6+ duergar who can call attack 2-4 times per person per round all level 5 with a boss stacked on top of it. supposedly you can recruit three duergar to help you, but despite crawling through the wiki and 2 year old reddit posts, these duergar will not even give me a dialog option other than to leave. tried different positioning, tried the ogre horn (didnt even summon them) tried cheese, tried invisibility, tried a different party comp. tried to side with nere and say ♥♥♥♥ the gnomes, none of it works, they hit too many times, push you into lava and insa kill you, but if you push them they just kinda sit in there and take a bit of damage, dont know what im missing, but jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ christ is this too much to handle.

unfortunately the game doesnt really open up for you until level 5 when half your party gets fireball. at which point every fight will become pretty trivial until you hit act 2 and find out they all have hunger of hadar (the darkness one, seriously, every character should be multiclassed into warlock just to get devils sight cuz this game is ridiculous)

i havnt done this fight since EA and when I did I sided with Nere and it wasnt all that bad. i mean, it was still pretty bad, especially because they call allies to come help.

The reality is if you dont have fireball you're going to have a bad time.

In this game you need to have either extremely high damage, or extremely high durability. Preferably both. My character is a plate armored shield wielding sorcerer with an AC of 24 and gear that boosts me further when im concentrating on a spell or casting in melee combat. Shadowheart has an item that whenever she casts mass healing word everyone not only gets healed but also gains Bless. no one else in the party really matters as together we can heal and obliterate pretty much anyone. But for higher damage I bring Gales fireballs and for higher survivability I bring Karlach with the Tough feat, shes got over 100 hp rn.

I dont know how much of that you can get by the time you reach Grymforge, im guessing not much of it. Still, you need to armor up all your characters as much as possible, especially the casters. I found the moderately armored feat is very good for Gale at level 4, gives him an AC of 18 or so. If everyone in your party is at AC 18 or higher, enemies wont be able to kill you as often, which means you need to cast healing spells less often.

I also have finished Act 2 and I can say that I hoarded all of my items like poisons and potions and for no reason. So, if you are struggling with a fight, go ahead and use some of your stash of consumables. dont be afraid to give out healing potions like candy because you'll find plenty of them, especially if you buy healing potions from every vendor before inevitably being forced to kill them. dont forget to buy from auntie ethal before you cant anymore.


sorry i dont have any specific pointers for this fight. i found it hard but i didnt find it that difficult. get high AC, bring healing word preferably on two characters because its a bonus action to bring a 0 hp party member back to life.

But honestly. my best advice for this fight, is to be level 5. thats when the game really opens up and a lot of fights become winnable.

[Siegbold]

its also very buggy after that fight all npcs in grymforge dissapeared for me

[Chill-In]

I like the game but, yes ... difficulty spikes are annoying as hell. There are times in which game turns to load/save galore, often thanks to constant bad luck on skill checks (yeah, I know about karma dice, but it doesn't sound like a solution for me). It breaks a lot of immersion this game has to offer to a player.

[BhaalSakh]

I'm stuck there as well. The game is way too hard.

[Ashe]

You kinda answered your own question in this post.

There's two parties that are strong here. But you're not forced to fight both simultaneously. Heck, I didn't even announce the fight; I just kicked the captain into magma and let that be the start of the fight.

Once combat is over and you've set up positions for Nere you can watch a cutscene where you're powerless to watch him kick a gnome into lava and then destroy him because it's a 1v4 and this game really isn't too good at handling those.

If it helps, have a ranged class (magic or martial) hide on the overhanging catwalk. I get Gale up there with Misty Step but you could feasibly get around there from the other grymforge warp point, provided you've taken out the enemies there. You can pepper them and move back before they even get a shot at you.

[Dailao]

Originally posted by Mickey Histo:

Nere fight is completely unbalanced

You have several options here.
1) If you take too long, he will be dead ready for looting.
2) If you break down the blockade and run away from the conversation, you can reposition and start up top with the guard, and snipe down on everybody, throw down bombs etc.
3) You can start clearing them from a more ideal position before you even break down the blockade.
4) More options that I don't know about I'm sure.

[Dailao]

Originally posted by Siegbold:

its also very buggy after that fight all npcs in grymforge dissapeared for me

It's not buggy. There are two factions, and both have reasons for leaving depending on the outcome.

[doublejesus]

One of the dudes you can talk to expresses his discontent with the absolute and if you express your dislike of them despite them believing you to be a loyal true soul they'll ask you to prove it by destroying the arcane eye and after you do that they will stage a coup and you can even make 500 g out of the deal.

Or if you wanna be a gangster you can steal the special $1200 explosive powder barrel from the gnome and use that to open the passageway. It will kill like half the people in the room and they won't even be mad about it.

I did both.

[DJigsaw]

I kinda cheesed and was só much fun lol. Before blowing up the rubble I managed to throw 4 i think down... It didnt insta kill them but they didnt alarm anyone and after i killed the remaining. So i killed the whole party and when i went to face Nere it was only me and him. I wasnt being able to beat it either before.

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

Yeah, this fight was a pain in the ass for me too. But I found a way around their numbers before blowing up the rubble. Through that archway near the rubble they are clearing is a chasm. I discovered you can lure one or two of the Duegar next to it with Minor Illusion. Then I started pushing them off with Karlach. Once there were only a few left I fought them, then cleared the rubble. Nere has more dialogue options too when he comes out and has no backup.