Why nudity?

[lazarusblack]

I'm not against nudity, infact I'm rather fond of nudity. But I don't get the nudity here. I mean, I haven't seen the sex/romance scenes yet but I'm not sold that genitalia, really brings much to the table.

Maybe the game needed bigger genitalia. Or smaller tables.

It's like the penis in Cyberpunk. It doesn't really serve any purpose.

Do some people find it enhances immersion when the nude models are on display? Is that the point?

Might not the time have been better spent, elsewhere?

[Holt]

I was just going to say: I’m so glad I was able to pick an uncircumcised penis for my character. Not sure what I would have done if I didn’t have that option. Refund the game I guess.

[Fejj]

For the meme

I can run around as a naked Orc and its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hilarious

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Fejj:

For the meme

I can run around as a naked Orc and its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hilarious

Now that's a reason I can get behind

[Mollerz]

Originally posted by Holt:

I was just going to say: I’m so glad I was able to pick an uncircumcised penis for my character. Not sure what I would have done if I didn’t have that option. Refund the game I guess.

Thanks for funding my entertainment.

[lazarusblack]

For the umpteenth time, I am not bothered by the nudity. I am not morally outraged, I am not religiously affronted. I am more than aware that the ability to see genitals is optional.

I simply ask, what is the innate value in nudity in this game? What does it bring to the table, beyond cheap commercialism because sex sells. It does nothing mechanically, it isn't used in an artful or meaningful way. It's barely seen and doesn't even break any barriers in terms of what hasn't been done before. Yet here everyone is, defending it to the hilt and making grand assumptions about my character and politics, simply for posing a question. And you all think you are the morally superior parties?

I will say, that seeing the avalanche of rabid, insulting, politically motivated backlash over my simply asking an open question, speaks volumes. The assumptions people jump too, speaks far more to those making the assumptions quality, or lack there of, than it does to mine in daring to pose a question.

[WastingSanity]

Originally posted by Mollerz:

Bro you are the one advocating for a culture of child abuse.

Not me.

So by suggesting having the ESRB add LGB and LGBT+ labels for warning, you consider that promoting child abuse. Amazing.

[Mollerz]

Originally posted by lazarusblack:

For the umpteenth time, I am not bothered by the nudity. I am not morally outraged, I am not religiously affronted. I am more than aware that the ability to see genitals is optional.

I simply ask, what is the innate value in nudity in this game? What does it bring to the table, beyond cheap commercialism because sex sells. It does nothing mechanically, it isn't used in an artful or meaningful way. It's barely seen and doesn't even break any barriers in terms of what hasn't been done before. Yet here everyone is, defending it to the hilt and making grand assumptions about my character and politics, simply for posing a question. And you all think you are the morally superior parties?

I will say, that seeing the avalanche of rabid, insulting, politically motivated backlash over my simply asking an open question, speaks volumes. The assumptions people jump too, speaks far more to those making the assumptions quality, or lack there of, than it does to mine in daring to pose a question.

The innate value is being mock poutraged.

As you transparently know lol.

[DasWulf]

Nudity and cut scenes with graphic sex are completely unnecessary for a game like this. In fact its weird that it is featured as prominently as it is, and as such its more of a question about the developers themselves that they felt the need to add it.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Yeah, usually most of the content is communicated without showing someone's junk for sure so it's a bit extraneous. I guess I'm just indifferent about genitals and I view this more as a result of the somewhat immature tone most video game romances tend to take than anything about genitals. Witcher 2 and 3 did a pretty good job of romances not feeling immature, but besides that...usually pretty awkward IMO.

I also think that there's a small issue of people conflating sex and romance as being inseparable elements when in reality they are more complementary in nature.

Not everything romantic is sexual and not everything sexual is romantic so to speak, that's probably a factor that falls back into the issue of the questionable perception of sex being an "adult" theme and that romance lacking sex isn't considered mature.

Personally speaking I'm the type that prefers "romance" in storytelling to be more about a deep personal connection and mutual support rather than more driven by hormonal factors first and then having any connection come after that initial attraction, feels more like an actual connection than just cheap sex followed by an imprinting effect.

[Mollerz]

Originally posted by WastingSanity:

Originally posted by Mollerz:

Bro you are the one advocating for a culture of child abuse.

Not me.

So by suggesting having the ESRB add LGB and LGBT+ labels for warning, you consider that promoting child abuse. Amazing.

Like I said.. You could never be a lawyer. You aren't even threading a narrative much less.. I mean are you ok?

[The_Gay_Agenda]

There are statues with pee pees just hanging out for everyone to see. Outrageous! Nudity should be outlawed!

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by lazarusblack:

For the umpteenth time, I am not bothered by the nudity. I am not morally outraged, I am not religiously affronted. I am more than aware that the ability to see genitals is optional.

I simply ask, what is the innate value in nudity in this game? What does it bring to the table, beyond cheap commercialism because sex sells. It does nothing mechanically, it isn't used in an artful or meaningful way. It's barely seen and doesn't even break any barriers in terms of what hasn't been done before. Yet here everyone is, defending it to the hilt and making grand assumptions about my character and politics, simply for posing a question. And you all think you are the morally superior parties?

I will say, that seeing the avalanche of rabid, insulting, politically motivated backlash over my simply asking an open question, speaks volumes. The assumptions people jump too, speaks far more to those making the assumptions quality, or lack there of, than it does to mine in daring to pose a question.

Your question was answered in the first post though. People have genitals when they get naked. They can get naked in some scenes.

Immersion.

It's like asking "What is the innate value in character visual customization in this game? What does it bring to the table, beyond cheap commercialism because people like customizing characters and it sells? It does nothing mechanically, it isn't used in an artful or meaningful way."

You're just singling out one feature for this when tons of features could fit the same list, and ones that took far more development time and effort.

[WastingSanity]

Originally posted by Mollerz:

Like I said.. You could never be a lawyer. You aren't even threading a narrative much less.. I mean are you ok?

Your circular logic is failing you.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Yeah, usually most of the content is communicated without showing someone's junk for sure so it's a bit extraneous. I guess I'm just indifferent about genitals and I view this more as a result of the somewhat immature tone most video game romances tend to take than anything about genitals. Witcher 2 and 3 did a pretty good job of romances not feeling immature, but besides that...usually pretty awkward IMO.

I also think that there's a small issue of people conflating sex and romance as being inseparable elements when in reality they are more complementary in nature.

Not everything romantic is sexual and not everything sexual is romantic so to speak, that's probably a factor that falls back into the issue of the questionable perception of sex being an "adult" theme and that romance lacking sex isn't considered mature.

Personally speaking I'm the type that prefers "romance" in storytelling to be more about a deep personal connection and mutual support rather than more driven by hormonal factors first and then having any connection come after that initial attraction, feels more like an actual connection than just cheap sex followed by an imprinting effect.

Absolutely, which is why the Witcher ones work because they're established characters with a connection before the game instead of meeting 2 weeks ago. Besides those the best romances in games are more in more narrative focused character based games with pre-set characters and usually not sex scenes. I'd say.

Or my personal favorite is outside of party romances, like Aveline in DA2.

But again, I know that my tastes aren't everyones lol

It's also hard to have a really good romance in this sort of setting with undefined main characters and each one being such a small part of the game, so I understand the issues.

[Mollerz]

Originally posted by WastingSanity:

Originally posted by Mollerz:

Like I said.. You could never be a lawyer. You aren't even threading a narrative much less.. I mean are you ok?

Your circular logic is failing you.

Sure thing. I bet you walk away from the internet satisfied all the time lolololol.

I mean here you are on a video game forum defending child abuse, and that's your hill.

I mean yikes AF.