How to avoid killing Minthara?

[SuperWriter]

I haven't been able to find any information of recruiting her without going on a murdering spree, but I want to be able to spare her life in case we can recruit her later on on a good route. Anyone know how to do this? I'm right before we meet the druids and the goblins

[Mifoon]

Publicado originalmente por superduperwriter:

I haven't been able to find any information of recruiting her without going on a murdering spree, but I want to be able to spare her life in case we can recruit her later on on a good route. Anyone know how to do this? I'm right before we meet the druids and the goblins

Click on passives under the bar with all your actions and spells and toggle non lethal. All melee attacks will knock someone unconscious instead of killing them.

[Tomliwag]

Publicado originalmente por kurosawamifune:

Publicado originalmente por superduperwriter:

I haven't been able to find any information of recruiting her without going on a murdering spree, but I want to be able to spare her life in case we can recruit her later on on a good route. Anyone know how to do this? I'm right before we meet the druids and the goblins

Click on passives under the bar with all your actions and spells and toggle non lethal. All melee attacks will knock someone unconscious instead of killing them.

Are you sure the game doesn't think that a stunned NPC = dead NPC? because there were many cases when the stunned one was considered dead and never appeared again.

[Vistha]

Publicado originalmente por TwIn LinKs:

Publicado originalmente por kurosawamifune:

Click on passives under the bar with all your actions and spells and toggle non lethal. All melee attacks will knock someone unconscious instead of killing them.

Are you sure the game doesn't think that a stunned NPC = dead NPC? because there were many cases when the stunned one was considered dead and never appeared again.

There are like 2 quests in Act 3 where you specifically have to knock out an NPC.
Everything in Act 1 and 2 does NOT work as far as knocking NPCs out is concerned.

[DACNINJA]

You have to either side with the goblins in Act 1 or avoid triggering the siege by killing Sazza, not meeting her etc. Anything that is not good aligned is gimped/lacking content in this game. I missed out on Dammon, ALL the Tieflings vanished even though I killed 2 of the gob leaders and convinced Kagha to give them shelter. They should have at least given us an alternate trader if Dammon is missing.

[Martin]

Publicado originalmente por superduperwriter:

I haven't been able to find any information of recruiting her without going on a murdering spree, but I want to be able to spare her life in case we can recruit her later on on a good route. Anyone know how to do this? I'm right before we meet the druids and the goblins

The only way to recruit her is to kill the druid camp.

[Nomad]

Publicado originalmente por S.ug:

nobody seems to know, some ppl have talked about knocking her out or sleep

Knocking her out could work. In my current Dark Urge playthrough I knocked out Alfria, which allows you to not kill her during his questline (which can be important because later on she gives an extremely powerful piece of equipment as a quest reward).

The surefire way to ensure she lives of course is to take the evil option and choose to side with the goblins and attack the emerald grove.

If you want to recruit her though you can only do that if you side with the goblins and attack the emerald grove.

[SuperWriter]

Publicado originalmente por Nomad:

Publicado originalmente por S.ug:

nobody seems to know, some ppl have talked about knocking her out or sleep

Knocking her out could work. In my current Dark Urge playthrough I knocked out Alfria, which allows you to not kill her during his questline (which can be important because later on she gives an extremely powerful piece of equipment as a quest reward).

The surefire way to ensure she lives of course is to take the evil option and choose to side with the goblins and attack the emerald grove.

If you want to recruit her though you can only do that if you side with the goblins and attack the emerald grove.

Knocking out Minthara DOES NOT work. Only current way to recruit her is to avoid the conflict like the others have been saying.

[Tomliwag]

Publicado originalmente por Nomad:

Publicado originalmente por S.ug:

nobody seems to know, some ppl have talked about knocking her out or sleep

Knocking her out could work. In my current Dark Urge playthrough I knocked out Alfria, which allows you to not kill her during his questline (which can be important because later on she gives an extremely powerful piece of equipment as a quest reward).

The surefire way to ensure she lives of course is to take the evil option and choose to side with the goblins and attack the emerald grove.

If you want to recruit her though you can only do that if you side with the goblins and attack the emerald grove.

Knocking her out will not work in the purpose of her recruitment in act 2 , she won't show up in the second act that way.
You saying that the only way to recruit her is to destroy the grove but it's a lie.
Knocking somebody out only works in a few quests in the game. For example knocking out works with one potential companion in 3 act , don't want to spoiler you. In this case, the outcome of the quest will be decided by the fact that non-lethal attacks are turned On or Off. It THAT case game actually consider that person is stunned\knocked\whatever but not DEAD and u can talk to him further.
But with Minthara that won't work yet at least. There must be a patch for her and other npc.
So we have 2 options to have her in team: help her to destroy the grove (as the absolute tells her) or walk away in act 2 , like other companions (Shadowheart\Astarion\Lae'zel) says "it's not our problem , we are guests here , lets finish our biz here and move on".

Minthara and Halsin are not the only persons who knew about Moonrise tower. There also a Gith path and u can find them by you own without anybody.
You can even save some NPC in gobbos camp including Halsin before doing so. That wont be a problem to finding her later in towers.

But there will be another problems with that way. As i said some NPC including Minthara are needed major patch. Some npc and some quest decisions are tied to each other in a stupid and illogical ways of bad coding.
For my first playthrough i choose that way (no siege) and have no regrets. I enjoy the game anyway , and i think that companions like Minthara is what needed to finish of great evil.

[Menagerie]

Publicado originalmente por Synysterpillow:

I was able to knock her out and take her pants off confirmed. After that I don't do and tell :)

Is this on your Bill Cosby run?

[Karonuva]

Publicado originalmente por Fueler:

You can also steal the druid's idol. This will make them kick the tieflings out, which leads to the druids and tieflings killing each other. Or you can help the tieflings kill the druids. Then go see the goblins and Minthara and tell her what happened.
Still won't be able to recruit her till act 2 though.

Do you need Kagha alive to initiate the druids against the tieflings? Though I believe I've seen people say the tieflings abandon the grove regardless and get killed on the road if you don't specifically kill all the goblin leaders.

[Thadeus]

Only if you side with the goblins. You can't save the grove AND get Minthara.

[orthostatic]

Publicado originalmente por Thadeus:

Only if you side with the goblins. You can't save the grove AND get Minthara.

This matches what I read on Fextralife.
https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Minthara

I suppose the next question is, can you recruit Minthara and Halsin in the same run? I can't imagine Halsin playing ball if you helped Minthara murder the whole grove.

[Thadeus]

Publicado originalmente por orthostatic:

Publicado originalmente por Thadeus:

Only if you side with the goblins. You can't save the grove AND get Minthara.

This matches what I read on Fextralife.
https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Minthara

I suppose the next question is, can you recruit Minthara and Halsin in the same run? I can't imagine Halsin playing ball if you helped Minthara murder the whole grove.

No because Halsin doesn't join if you destroyed the grove.

[DACNINJA]

Publicado originalmente por orthostatic:

Publicado originalmente por Thadeus:

Only if you side with the goblins. You can't save the grove AND get Minthara.

This matches what I read on Fextralife.
https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Minthara

I suppose the next question is, can you recruit Minthara and Halsin in the same run? I can't imagine Halsin playing ball if you helped Minthara murder the whole grove.

For what its worth if you recruit Minthara by not triggering the siege you meet Halsin in Act 2 and he stays at the camp in Act 3. He got kidnapped by Orin, theres a cinematic in bear form and scratch. Not interested in putting him in party so I dont know if I can put him in.

[Arrikonait]

Publicado originalmente por TwIn LinKs:

I didn’t kill any of the goblin leaders, I saved Arabella in the grove of druids, Kagha is no longer with the druids of shadows, I helped a couple of people there, I didn’t participate in the siege of the grove on either side. At the goblin camp, I saved the bard and the prisoner next to him. I met Minthara in the Moonrise towers. You can get there by deceiving the guards, or you will have to cut out all the absolute fanatics, which I did. If you want to fight them, prepare potions of speed, because there will be a lot of blood. She will also help you with buffs and stuff if you decide to blast your way to her. Therefore, it is easier to move gradually, restoring resources. Especially if you play on tactician. As I suspected she was under control of the Absolute and to find it out you either need to kill the druids or choose neutral path in the siege of the grove (ignore\not triggering it, u can talk to her in goblin camp in act 1 but do not choose options that reveals druids and walk away). And our prism can protect her just as much as it can protect us. She is a strong paladin, and together we will destroy this cult.

But did the tieflings reach the inn or were they killed?