Character creator is awful?

[Nonomori]

8 face presets to choose from and you can't edit anything? In a mid 2023 game?

Is that some kind of a joke? I have no idea how stuff like this gets approved. And if I remember early access version of this game actually had MORE options to choose from. What happened, why did they cut it?

EDIT: The point of the thread: any game in which you can create your own character, that has face presets instead of sliders should be condemned and left on the outskirts of history.

[xaan]

Publicado originalmente por Nonomori:

You joking or what? Dragon Age Inquisition which came back in 2014 had fully customizeable face and it was animated in all cutscenes perfectly. You seriously tried to justify their laziness with this puny excuse?

About 95% of all faces created with DAI's character creater look like garbage. Including some of the presets. The green lighting during the creation doesn't help with giving you a good idea of how your character will look in game.

I'll take a few well-made presets any day over a truckload of sliders that only produce clownfaces.

[Berlin]

I kinda agree. The new thing is confusing as a ll hell. Or, the hells if you prefer.

[suprpiwi]

Publicado originalmente por rok.borovnik:

Check older games and come back. This is miles ahead of all CRPG games ever. And BTW D4 only got 4 faces in 2023 ?

older games have a proper face creation lol

[Infinite Pudding]

I slightly agree, I'd like to be able to customize my face a little more than I can. But at the end of the day the game is amazing and it's such a small gripe that I'm not bothered by it.

[rok.borovnik]

This was proly a decision made by Larian. There need to be lines somwher, timelines what is needed and what not if they implement every wish and every detail it would them take another 1-2 years. Look at Star citizen what is going on. They are adding nons top assests and after 12 years game is still in Alpha and SP part is nowhere to bee seeing. They proly decided it is good enough and decision was made.

[Nonomori]

Publicado originalmente por xaan:

Publicado originalmente por Nonomori:

You joking or what? Dragon Age Inquisition which came back in 2014 had fully customizeable face and it was animated in all cutscenes perfectly. You seriously tried to justify their laziness with this puny excuse?

About 95% of all faces created with DAI's character creater look like garbage. Including some of the presets. The green lighting during the creation doesn't help with giving you a good idea of how your character will look in game.

I'm not talking about attractiveness of the faces. I'm talking about ability to edit faces. Why all games nowadays can't just steal BDO's sliders format is beyond me.

[Faitheal]

if 8 facial presets is your biggest gripe, then i take that as a good sign that this game is living up to the hype.

[Triu]

A bit limited but the scope of animations is pretty good like everyone said already. Only problem with character editor is female and male aren't actually linked to the right bodies/faces.

[Nonomori]

Publicado originalmente por Faitheal:

if 8 facial presets is your biggest gripe, then i take that as a good sign that this game is living up to the hype.

Not the only gripe but definitely one of the most "stand out" ones.

[⛥ ⌁⌁L⁕ꝉ⁜ϾH ⌁⌁]

Publicado originalmente por rok.borovnik:

What that manual have got to do with character creation ? Enligten me

It's part of the people saying how you can dump everything from the original and it's better. You made such a comment saying, "Check older games and come back. This is miles ahead of all CRPG games ever". You don't even seem to know what a tabletop rpg conversion into a game is even. It's not a 3rd person walking sim with a few flashy graphics

[Martin]

Publicado originalmente por Nonomori:

8 face presets to choose from and you can't edit anything? In a mid 2023 game?

Is that some kind of a joke? I have no idea how stuff like this gets approved. And if I remember early access version of this game actually had MORE options to choose from. What happened, why did they cut it?

It's better than the prior system, which just makes everything simpler. I prefer simple.
I realise there are budding artists out there who want to make the perfect face.. well hard luck ;)

[Triu]

Also wait a year you'll probably have modders out there adding tons and improving what we got already.

[xaan]

Publicado originalmente por Nonomori:

Publicado originalmente por xaan:

About 95% of all faces created with DAI's character creater look like garbage. Including some of the presets. The green lighting during the creation doesn't help with giving you a good idea of how your character will look in game.

I'm not talking about attractiveness of the faces. I'm talking about ability to edit faces. Why all games nowadays can't just steal BDO's sliders format is beyond me.

Nor am I.
I'm just saying that a bunch of sliders is worthless if the faces they produce do not look like real faces. Even subjectively ugly faces have to look like real faces. DAI's creator does not manage this.

[SnuffSaid]

Publicado originalmente por xaan:

Publicado originalmente por Nonomori:

You joking or what? Dragon Age Inquisition which came back in 2014 had fully customizeable face and it was animated in all cutscenes perfectly. You seriously tried to justify their laziness with this puny excuse?

About 95% of all faces created with DAI's character creater look like garbage. Including some of the presets. The green lighting during the creation doesn't help with giving you a good idea of how your character will look in game.

I'll take a few well-made presets any day over a truckload of sliders that only produce clownfaces.

That's true of any game with sliders, because you're ♥♥♥♥ at using them and weren't willing to put the time in to get better (which is fine and why it also had presets). People who were good at it though could even create celebrity likenesses and such.

The presets here also aren't well-made, they're ugly. The motion capture is decent but the actual faces are aesthetically displeasing with only one or two options per major ethnicity.

It's my biggest gripe with the game by far. I just came from Diablo 4's anaemic character creation expecting much better here, since D4 is an isometric ARPG where you rarely see your character...Instead they are pretty similarly limited. Very disappointing.

[xaan]

Publicado originalmente por SnuffSaid:

That's true of any game with sliders, because you're ♥♥♥♥ at using them and weren't willing to put the time in to get better (which is fine and why it also had presets). People who were good at it though could even create celebrity likenesses and such.

The presets here also aren't well-made, they're ugly. The motion capture is decent but the actual faces are aesthetically displeasing with only one or two options per major ethnicity.

It's my biggest gripe with the game by far. I just came from Diablo 4's anaemic character creation expecting much better here, since D4 is an isometric ARPG where you rarely see your character...Instead they are pretty similarly limited. Very disappointing.

I'm willing to bet that most people aren't particularly good at creating faces with sliders. Using other people's faces mitigates this a little, but first: it defeats the purpose since now your using presets again (just not the dev's presets) and second: DAI specifically did not have import/export codes like Mass Effect.